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Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.
Aug 25, 2020 at 7:45 PM
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If this kid is healthy and 90% of what he was I'm excited. Seems like a great dude too.
Aug 25, 2020 at 9:51 PM
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Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Aug 26, 2020 at 8:15 AM
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Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
Aug 28, 2020 at 5:53 AM
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One thing is certain, Jerick McKinnon is gonna be a problem for opposing linebackers. #49ers
— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) August 28, 2020
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Aug 28, 2020 at 5:57 AM
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Him and Trent Taylor are going to be our safety blankets for not having good pass protection. If we had either one of them in the Super Bowl we would've won hands down
Aug 28, 2020 at 7:01 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
Aug 28, 2020 at 7:07 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
I'm excite.
Aug 28, 2020 at 7:28 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
One thing is certain, Jerick McKinnon is gonna be a problem for opposing linebackers. #49ers
— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) August 28, 2020
📸 @49ers pic.twitter.com/mpzzUJj7eM
Such exciting news. Keep it up.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Aug 28, 2020 at 7:28 AM ]
Aug 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
If linebackers can't cover McKinnon, Reed, or Kittle... what are they going to do? Run dime all game? Run the 3-3-5? We will gash them all day with the run if that's the case.
Aug 28, 2020 at 9:46 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
If linebackers can't cover McKinnon, Reed, or Kittle... what are they going to do? Run dime all game? Run the 3-3-5? We will gash them all day with the run if that's the case.
A couple question marks about that grouping though. Does Jet have the vision to be an effective runner (compared to Mostert)? Jet had limited action in MIN and we haven't seen him in a 49er uniform. I'll trust Kyle here.
Reed is not a strong run blocker so whichever side he lines up on will be considerably weaker compared to Kittle's side. Does this tip off the defense enough that they don't fear Reed's side to be the playside on runs? Kyle will line up both TEs to one side on occasion.
Aug 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:Originally posted by WestCoastForever:Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
If linebackers can't cover McKinnon, Reed, or Kittle... what are they going to do? Run dime all game? Run the 3-3-5? We will gash them all day with the run if that's the case.
A couple question marks about that grouping though. Does Jet have the vision to be an effective runner (compared to Mostert)? Jet had limited action in MIN and we haven't seen him in a 49er uniform. I'll trust Kyle here.
Reed is not a strong run blocker so whichever side he lines up on will be considerably weaker compared to Kittle's side. Does this tip off the defense enough that they don't fear Reed's side to be the playside on runs? Kyle will line up both TEs to one side on occasion.
If you run 22 personnel, I'm not sure it matters too much, because you could have Mostert and McKinnon on the field at the same time. McKinnon could then split out wide and with Trent and McGlinchey, two guys who are already very strong run blockers, they can create lanes on their own honestly lol.
Aug 28, 2020 at 10:00 AM
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We should just convert him to WR already
Aug 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
If linebackers can't cover McKinnon, Reed, or Kittle... what are they going to do? Run dime all game? Run the 3-3-5? We will gash them all day with the run if that's the case.
A couple question marks about that grouping though. Does Jet have the vision to be an effective runner (compared to Mostert)? Jet had limited action in MIN and we haven't seen him in a 49er uniform. I'll trust Kyle here.
Reed is not a strong run blocker so whichever side he lines up on will be considerably weaker compared to Kittle's side. Does this tip off the defense enough that they don't fear Reed's side to be the playside on runs? Kyle will line up both TEs to one side on occasion.
If you run 22 personnel, I'm not sure it matters too much, because you could have Mostert and McKinnon on the field at the same time. McKinnon could then split out wide and with Trent and McGlinchey, two guys who are already very strong run blockers, they can create lanes on their own honestly lol.
We've talked about having two halfbacks on the field at the same time - you lose a run blocker. Neither Mostert or Jet are going to lead block for the other. If a defense sees this (Jet/Mostert on the field at the same time), they'd matchup with the 49ers by treating one of them like a WR. The beauty of having Juice on the field is that he provides a threat in the run game as a lead blocker.
Aug 28, 2020 at 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Jimmy is not a bad deep thrower. It hasn't been his forte, but he can make and has made every throw on the field from what I've seen.
The coach certainly deserves credit for calling plays that succeed--that's his job, but Shanny has yet to execute a single play.
Jet will play to Jimmy's wheelhouse. I am looking forward to Shanny cooking up some rousers!
I don't think improving Jimmy's options in the short game with Trent and McKinnon will hurt him with the deep ball. Need to take a few shots a game.
I remember reading an old article circa 2011 or so that the Shanahans valued deep passing because the risks weren't great but rewards could be big. Plus I think with Rex Grossman, making the most of possessions was a big deal.
I believe it will all come together this season.
I agree. I think Kyle is always aiming for the ultimate offense. He's got his reliable running game; and the short passing game can be machine-like now with the return of Taylor and Jet. The only element that has been lacking, is a reliable deep threat. We should see more of it this season with Aiyuk, and teams trying to stifle the short game.
The same evolution of the system was true for Walsh, before he finally got his deep threat in Jerry.
Kyle's ideal offense has always been one where the defense has to cover every blade of grass on the field. While Bourne has gotten some deep passes in practice, he's never been that guy in games. The three receivers who (on paper) have the ability to attack all three levels with speed and quickness are Aiyuk, Deebo, and Pettis.
Mostert/McKinnon, Kittle/Reed/Juice, Deebo/Aiyuk/Taylor/Pettis/Bourne -- these groups can be deployed in so many different combinations to make our offense dangerous at every level.
21 personnel could be 11 personnel with McKinnon on the field. We could run 22 personnel with Reed/Kittle/Juice/McKinnon that turns into 13 personnel. So many variations. I'm pretty hyped to see how it plays out.
This is the one I am most intrigued with. If Reed can stay on the field, 22 is the grouping I can see giving opposing defense fits because of the talent on the field and because defenses don't normally practice against it. Do they remove a CB to matchup or do they stay on base (2 CBs)? Better have LBs that can cover because one of them will be covering Reed or Kittle.
If linebackers can't cover McKinnon, Reed, or Kittle... what are they going to do? Run dime all game? Run the 3-3-5? We will gash them all day with the run if that's the case.
A couple question marks about that grouping though. Does Jet have the vision to be an effective runner (compared to Mostert)? Jet had limited action in MIN and we haven't seen him in a 49er uniform. I'll trust Kyle here.
Reed is not a strong run blocker so whichever side he lines up on will be considerably weaker compared to Kittle's side. Does this tip off the defense enough that they don't fear Reed's side to be the playside on runs? Kyle will line up both TEs to one side on occasion.
If you run 22 personnel, I'm not sure it matters too much, because you could have Mostert and McKinnon on the field at the same time. McKinnon could then split out wide and with Trent and McGlinchey, two guys who are already very strong run blockers, they can create lanes on their own honestly lol.
We've talked about having two halfbacks on the field at the same time - you lose a run blocker. Neither Mostert or Jet are going to lead block for the other. If a defense sees this (Jet/Mostert on the field at the same time), they'd matchup with the 49ers by treating one of them like a WR. The beauty of having Juice on the field is that he provides a threat in the run game as a lead blocker.
My thoughts exactly.
Taking blockers out of the equation is like nails on a chalkboard to Shannahan ears. That's why he likes the multi-faceted guys like Hurd, Deebo, Kittle, Juice, and potentially Jennings. Keep the defense on their toes and never show your cards.
[ Edited by GangstaGangsta on Aug 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM ]
Aug 28, 2020 at 5:11 PM
- DonnieDarko
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this is basically gonna be jet every other week