Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Psinex:

I think Kyle hoped he would be like his own Swiss Army knife scat player like Alvin Kamara. It's pretty shocking that he'd be so ungrateful after the Niners waited patiently for two years while he finally got healthy enough to take the field.

Well there's a big problem there actually.

It's great that Kyle is the smartest guy in the room, but his biggest downfall is thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

Lol, it's up to the player to perform. Even gifted athletes can't hack the NFL.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lol WTF!!!! His misses you gotta f**king kidding me.

....wait you're not kidding.

What about all of Shanahan's picks he has hit on??

You guys act like we had s**tty offenses or didn't just come from the Super Bowl!!!

Unbelievable!!

Baalke hit on some picks too, but he couldn't overcome his misses because they were so bad.

The problem with Kyle is a lot of his favorites suck. Cousins is average, McKinnon was never good, traded up for Pettis, traded up for Joe Williams, traded up for Beathard.

If guys like Kittle and Warner were high on Kyles list, we would have traded up and picked them way earlier than they were projected (like we did with Kyles guys).

He never expected to get big time production from players like Warner and Kittle, but he did from guys like Pettis and McKinnon. Do you not see a problem there?

hold up here, just because you didn't trade up for someone means that he's not one of his guys? you only trade if you think someone is going to acquire what you deem an asset or if you're trying to get a cheap 5th year on a rookie. it's mental gymastics to assign blame for all of his favorites and then not give credit. Also, mckinnon was never 'good' because he got injured. I'm sure if he was fully healthy and was able to participate in the offense, we'd have a much different output from him.

Originally posted by kujon11:

hold up here, just because you didn't trade up for someone means that he's not one of his guys? you only trade if you think someone is going to acquire what you deem an asset or if you're trying to get a cheap 5th year on a rookie. it's mental gymastics to assign blame for all of his favorites and then not give credit. Also, mckinnon was never 'good' because he got injured. I'm sure if he was fully healthy and was able to participate in the offense, we'd have a much different output from him.

Jet was never good. I'm not just talking about his time with us. Kyle can make something out of almost any RB, but we were never going to get more from Jet than we got this season before his tired legs. Terrible signing.

And nobody was snagging Beathard or Pettis from us lol. Those were just Kyles guys. Warner and Kittle were players that Kyle liked in the draft those years, but he didn't make sure we had them. They were there when our picks came and we were able to snag them.

He deemed Beathard and Joe Williams more valuable than Kittle, and he deemed Pettis more valuable than Warner, as evidenced by his draft order in those respective years. It doesn't take mental gymnastics to see a problem there.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lol WTF!!!! His misses you gotta f**king kidding me.

....wait you're not kidding.

What about all of Shanahan's picks he has hit on??

You guys act like we had s**tty offenses or didn't just come from the Super Bowl!!!

Unbelievable!!

Baalke hit on some picks too, but he couldn't overcome his misses because they were so bad.

The problem with Kyle is a lot of his favorites suck. Cousins is average, McKinnon was never good, traded up for Pettis, traded up for Joe Williams, traded up for Beathard.

If guys like Kittle and Warner were high on Kyles list, we would have traded up and picked them way earlier than they were projected (like we did with Kyles guys).

He never expected to get big time production from players like Warner and Kittle, but he did from guys like Pettis and McKinnon. Do you not see a problem there?

Assumptions galore. I love how you discredit them for the Kittle and Warner picks. How about Bosa, people had serious doubts about him, but he was the reason the defense took the next step and became elite. How about Deebo, how about Aiyuk, how about trading for Laken Tomlinson, how about getting the most out of Mostert?? And since you brought up Cousins, what about his time in Atlanta and how he turned that offense into a monster.

Sorry Charlie Sheen but YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

Wish I can say I'll miss him but he lost the only part of his game that was intriguing

If NE doesn't resign White, i wouldn't be surprised if he ended up there as the 3rd down back. Though Damien Harris could end up taking a lot of touches so idk

#28 would look nice and fit on Faurnette.. I wish we can sign him if TB say buh bye !!

he's going to be BO JACKSON here..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Psinex:
I think Kyle hoped he would be like his own Swiss Army knife scat player like Alvin Kamara. It's pretty shocking that he'd be so ungrateful after the Niners waited patiently for two years while he finally got healthy enough to take the field.

Well there's a big problem there actually.

It's great that Kyle is the smartest guy in the room, but his biggest downfall is thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

Nice thing about Kyle is that his RB's are really WR's. I was really looking forward to seeing Jerick really shine in Kyle's system, but it looks like the WR's (DedBo and Aiyuk) are better RB's than him at this point in his health. Maybe that's why he doesn't need to take a RB high in the draft, his WR's are his RB.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Well there's a big problem there actually.

It's great that Kyle is the smartest guy in the room, but his biggest downfall is thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

If coaches and GM's were right on every draft pick and every free agent they sign they would have 20+ pro bowlers on their team.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Jet was never good. I'm not just talking about his time with us. Kyle can make something out of almost any RB, but we were never going to get more from Jet than we got this season before his tired legs. Terrible signing.

And nobody was snagging Beathard or Pettis from us lol. Those were just Kyles guys. Warner and Kittle were players that Kyle liked in the draft those years, but he didn't make sure we had them. They were there when our picks came and we were able to snag them.

He deemed Beathard and Joe Williams more valuable than Kittle, and he deemed Pettis more valuable than Warner, as evidenced by his draft order in those respective years. It doesn't take mental gymnastics to see a problem there.

Lol! You twist everything to meet your preconceptions. Kittle had been a blocking tight end in college and for that reason was not highly rated in the draft. Supporters of the team would say Great Work! And picking him up so late is excellent. The team - and please stop it with the assumption that Shanahan make all of the decisions- decided that he would drop and wisely did not take him any higher than necessary. To make an assumption from this regarding his value to the front office or Shanahan is bizarre. And comparing his value as defined by his draft round as against another players value as defined by his draft round in an entirely different draft is just manufacturing whinges out of thin air.

Williams and Pettis were failures. And there were others. Because the draft is a lottery. This has been said often enough , it is depressing to have to say it again. It is a bit like having to walk along the beach shouting "people, the water is wet'. The fact is, Shanahan, Lynch and co took an appalling roster and transformed it in just a couple of years and then got it to the Super Bowl. Yes, I know this doesn't fit in with your agenda but it is a fact.

Originally posted by 9moon:

#28 would look nice and fit on Faurnette.. I wish we can sign him if TB say buh bye !!

he's going to be BO JACKSON here..

don't insult Bo here...

Sorry guys, it's just hard to ignore those misses. He does get credit for picking those late rounders, but those are mostly luck. Belichick is garbage at drafting, getting lucky with Brady in the 6th doesn't change that. If he actually knew what he was doing there is no way in hell he lets Brady slide to the 6th. Same with Kittle, if Kyle knew what he was doing there is no way in hell he lets Kittle last til the 5th.

Of course every GM doesn't hit on every pick, but when you pass on Mahomes/Watson for Cousins and do things like trade up for Pettis and Williams, there is a huge problem. He didn't just miss, he made a fool of himself with some of those misses. Paying Jet what he did was another foolish move. His scouting is off. A lot of players he thinks the highest of end up being the biggest busts. That is a problem.

I remember when people thought shanny built his offense around this guy like he was Marshall Faulk or something.

Lmao

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Jet was never good. I'm not just talking about his time with us. Kyle can make something out of almost any RB, but we were never going to get more from Jet than we got this season before his tired legs. Terrible signing.

And nobody was snagging Beathard or Pettis from us lol. Those were just Kyles guys. Warner and Kittle were players that Kyle liked in the draft those years, but he didn't make sure we had them. They were there when our picks came and we were able to snag them.

He deemed Beathard and Joe Williams more valuable than Kittle, and he deemed Pettis more valuable than Warner, as evidenced by his draft order in those respective years. It doesn't take mental gymnastics to see a problem there.

Lol! You twist everything to meet your preconceptions. Kittle had been a blocking tight end in college and for that reason was not highly rated in the draft. Supporters of the team would say Great Work! And picking him up so late is excellent. The team - and please stop it with the assumption that Shanahan make all of the decisions- decided that he would drop and wisely did not take him any higher than necessary. To make an assumption from this regarding his value to the front office or Shanahan is bizarre. And comparing his value as defined by his draft round as against another players value as defined by his draft round in an entirely different draft is just manufacturing whinges out of thin air.

Williams and Pettis were failures. And there were others. Because the draft is a lottery. This has been said often enough , it is depressing to have to say it again. It is a bit like having to walk along the beach shouting "people, the water is wet'. The fact is, Shanahan, Lynch and co took an appalling roster and transformed it in just a couple of years and then got it to the Super Bowl. Yes, I know this doesn't fit in with your agenda but it is a fact.

True, I am hoping they can maintain the success and show 2020 was the fluke season.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

I remember when people thought shanny built his offense around this guy like he was Marshall Faulk or something.

Lmao

It's been noted that he scrapped a lot of his playbook when Jerrick tore his ACL right before the season.