Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.

A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.

False. when leading, Thunder comes in to close out games in the 4th qtr

Remember the 17' Superbowl? We won't use the run to close out games.

Shanahan wanted multiple backs that fit his scheme -- like Philly and like what he had in Atlanta. The contract is likely loaded with incentives and we can get out after a couple years without too many problems, this is Maraathe we're talking about here -- even Garappolo's contract has a crapload of incentives.

He's got Breida, McKinnon and possibly Williams. I can see a fourth rounder being used as insurance for Joe Williams.

Along with the Richburg signing, it's clear that Shanahan wanted to have a more sophisticated running game to supplement what he probably feels is an already sufficient passing game as evidenced by Garappolo and the receiving corps' performance at the end of last season. If the team can somehow address the pass rushing need, don't be surprised with an o-line pick in the first or second round. If one of the four QB prospects is sitting there at #9, I can see the team moving back and either picking up an extra 2nd round pick this year or next year's first (depending on how far we have to move back, I'm sure Arizona is looking at trading up and Buffalo moving up again is a given) -- linebacker (Edmunds or Roquan Smith) in the first, OT or G in the 2nd and potentially a CB with the other 2nd round pick.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

New #49ers RB Jerick McKinnon averaged 6.05 yards every time he touched the ball in 2017.
Carlos Hyde: 4.9
Dion Lewis: 5.8
Isaiah Crowell: 5.3
LeSean McCoy: 5.8
Le'Veon Bell: 5.85

— Rob Lowder (@Rob_Lowder) March 14, 2018

What a terrible signing.

like I've said I could careless how he gets yards he gets them...people need to get off the whole just a RB stuff.

So much for getting one of these hyped up RBs in the draft

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Remember, our own scouts considered him undraftable. It was KS pick 100%

Hopefully that was a lesson for them. In retrospect having him off the draft board in the first place was the right move.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I like the fact that Kyle can go from 21 personnel to 11 personnel just by changing the formation. Do defenses play base or nickel or dime?

Man o Man 2018 is going to be *fun* to watch offensively.

Not to get nitpicky, but formation doesn't dictate personnel grouping. Personnel always dictates it. If there is 2 backs and 1 TE on the field it will always be 21 personnel no matter what formation you line up in.

Now our Swiss army knive player is juice....he can act as a back and a move TE so in theory we could bounce between 21 and 12 personnel.

You could go 10 personnel (1HB, 0TE, 4WR) and Line up in a wishbone but it's still 10 personnel.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.

A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.

False. when leading, Thunder comes in to close out games in the 4th qtr

Remember the 17' Superbowl? We won't use the run to close out games.

i don't recall them having a big back also

Originally posted by northvan49erman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Originally posted by northvan49erman:
I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

Lol.

Lol he brings up earl Mitchell's contract what? His cap hit is like $3.8 million wow just awful.

What a joke...people actually think players don't get overpaid a little in FA? Less then 24 hrs ago everyone was whining about not signing anyone NOW everyone is whining that we did...I see why we get called the whiners

If people can't open their eyes and see what Mckinnon will actually be in this offense (not just a RB) then I don't know what to tell ya.

I don't give to flying f**k if he gets yards on the ground or in the air but he's gonna happen in this system.

RBs are a dime a dozen. Making a glorified 3rd down back the 4th highest paid RB in the league is not a smart investment.

I like the guy, like him as a player. But that is a huge overpayment.

Looking at just Physical talent only 2% of the RB's in history have a better Sparq score.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

New #49ers RB Jerick McKinnon averaged 6.05 yards every time he touched the ball in 2017.
Carlos Hyde: 4.9
Dion Lewis: 5.8
Isaiah Crowell: 5.3
LeSean McCoy: 5.8
Le'Veon Bell: 5.85

— Rob Lowder (@Rob_Lowder) March 14, 2018

What a terrible signing.

like I've said I could careless how he gets yards he gets them...people need to get off the whole just a RB stuff.

Ouch, why you gotta crush all the haters' narrative like that?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.

A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.

False. when leading, Thunder comes in to close out games in the 4th qtr

You mean like this?

Originally posted by Giedi:

I don't know another poster here - other than maybe MadDog - that watches more Philm than NY85.

Oh god...there's plently. I'd throw Hero's football IQ up against anyone in here

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
From the Parking Lot. Please post on every page.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Kyle will throw the ball.

Worked well for him in the Superbowl.

It sure was good enough to get him there.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.

A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.

False. when leading, Thunder comes in to close out games in the 4th qtr

You mean like this?

you think that can happen every game ?

why even sign JMack..just use Brieda ?

Hate this move.

Hyde is a much more talented RB, wanted to be here, and took less than we gave McKinnon. People here complain that Hyde didn't live up to the hype, but few RBs in the league have under performed like McKinnon.

If you want to tell me it's about scheme and not ability, I will say that's foolish. But even if scheme really is that much more important than ability, take advantage of that and get discount guys who fit the scheme.

The only way this makes sense is if you truly believe McKinnon has quality NFL starter ability. If that were true, he would have capitalized on any one of his many opportunities to be that guy in Minnesota.