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  • cciowa
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Originally posted by fan49:
Another point. You know have McKinnon and juice who can catch screen plays

and maybe just maybe.. shock and awe here. after HEARING since 2011 we will call more screen passes.. we will actually SEE it this year
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rob Lowder is a moron. He is literally including kick return yardage to boost these averages. How stupid can a person be? What an asinine statistic.


Is that true?

Yes, the statistic didn't pass the smell test (I knew McKinnon averaged like 3.8 YPR last season) so I did some quick research:

Rushing:
150 carries, 570 yards (3.8 YPA)

Receiving:
51 receptions, 421 yards (8.3 YPA)

Kick returns:
12 returns, 312 yards (12.0 Y/R)

Rushing + receiving:
201 touches, 991 yards (4.9 yards/touch)

Rushing + receiving + kick returns:
213 touches, 1303 yards (6.12 yards/touch)







Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Was about to type this.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
On the Vikings, he was sir dance a lot

Not a fan of signing unless he learns to follow his blocks and stop running horizontal

ZBS is all about running horizontal.

Except you still need to know how to read blocks, which is Mackinnons biggest weakness

How do you know, did he play the ZBS in his previous team?

Yes, with Vikings. They changed to Zone to suit Cook

Murray and McKinnon had similar numbers on the ground and it looks like Cook came in as relief. Point is there wasn't much of a drop off from Murray to McKinnon in the run game, if they were running the ZBS. Now Alex Boone running the ZBS in Minnesota is Bass-Ackwards to me and bringing in Pat Shurmer but retaining mr. Power run Tony Sparano to coach the O-Line is another Bass-Ackwards move in my opinion. Why shift to the ZBS and use a Power run coach - to teach it? I think Kyle can see a good back that can fit his system and was misused in Minessota, and saw a chance and got him. I'm liking this move more and more.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by fan49:
Another point. You know have McKinnon and juice who can catch screen plays

and maybe just maybe.. shock and awe here. after HEARING since 2011 we will call more screen passes.. we will actually SEE it this year

i believe it, we'll have the OL for it, have the QB for it (kap's stupid throwing motion didn't help), and we have the rbs for it
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I think some of you need to go down to team HQ and submit your resumes, or maybe just get over yourselves...

Did this apply when Donahue and Baalke were GM's or is this just a recent development?


Its perfectly fine to not completely be on board with every single decision a team makes.
f**k those stats. Erryone knows JimmyG elevates those around him! 2,000+ yds from scrimmage easy!
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by cciowa:
well,. that explains it.lol.. said but lol. people depending on him. well i just do not know.. steve. do you like our new running back. at least it stops the talk of gore coming back

It was rediculous to think Gore would ever come back.

I think McKinnon will be a beast on this team.

thank you. you are very in tune with our running back deal. i like him to. i know the team will draft a nice running back or at least assume on day three
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rob Lowder is a moron. He is literally including kick return yardage to boost these averages. How stupid can a person be? What an asinine statistic.


Is that true?

Yes, the statistic didn't pass the smell test (I knew McKinnon averaged like 3.8 YPR last season) so I did some quick research:

Rushing:
150 carries, 570 yards (3.8 YPA)

Receiving:
51 receptions, 421 yards (8.3 YPA)

Kick returns:
12 returns, 312 yards (12.0 Y/R)

Rushing + receiving:
201 touches, 991 yards (4.9 yards/touch)

Rushing + receiving + kick returns:
213 touches, 1303 yards (6.12 yards/touch)







Lies, damned lies and statistics.


Damn it Lowder
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rob Lowder is a moron. He is literally including kick return yardage to boost these averages. How stupid can a person be? What an asinine statistic.


LOL if true. Well, he did say " touch."
Touches were factored in for the other RBs also
Originally posted by post_primitive:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rob Lowder is a moron. He is literally including kick return yardage to boost these averages. How stupid can a person be? What an asinine statistic.


Is that true?

Yes, the statistic didn't pass the smell test (I knew McKinnon averaged like 3.8 YPR last season) so I did some quick research:

Rushing:
150 carries, 570 yards (3.8 YPA)

Receiving:
51 receptions, 421 yards (8.3 YPA)

Kick returns:
12 returns, 312 yards (12.0 Y/R)

Rushing + receiving:
201 touches, 991 yards (4.9 yards/touch)

Rushing + receiving + kick returns:
213 touches, 1303 yards (6.12 yards/touch)




Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Was about to type this.


What were you saying again?
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by fan49:
Another point. You know have McKinnon and juice who can catch screen plays

and maybe just maybe.. shock and awe here. after HEARING since 2011 we will call more screen passes.. we will actually SEE it this year

i believe it, we'll have the OL for it, have the QB for it (kap's stupid throwing motion didn't help), and we have the rbs for it
donnie said nothing wrong. i am still a titch nervous about the line but it got better with our new man so a great start
Everyone has been consistently talking about how deep this draft pool is; but now the sky is falling because we don't have a short-distance, bruising back? IMO, there will be plenty of opportunities to pick up a "traditional" back in the draft.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Murray and McKinnon had similar numbers on the ground and it looks like Cook came in as relief. Point is there wasn't much of a drop off from Murray to McKinnon in the run game, if they were running the ZBS. Now Alex Boone running the ZBS in Minnesota is Bass-Ackwards to me and bringing in Pat Shurmer but retaining mr. Power run Tony Sparano to coach the O-Line is another Bass-Ackwards move in my opinion. Why shift to the ZBS and use a Power run coach - to teach it? I think Kyle can see a good back that can fit his system and was misused in Minessota, and saw a chance and got him. I'm liking this move more and more.

Dude please don't act knowledgeable when you think Cook came in as relief
Originally posted by jcs:
Looking at just Physical talent only 2% of the RB's in history have a better Sparq score.

Yeah and one of them is already on the team and he costs nothing.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Yes, the statistic didn't pass the smell test (I knew McKinnon averaged like 3.8 YPR last season) so I did some quick research:

Rushing:
150 carries, 570 yards (3.8 YPA)

Receiving:
51 receptions, 421 yards (8.3 YPA)

Kick returns:
12 returns, 312 yards (12.0 Y/R)

Rushing + receiving:
201 touches, 991 yards (4.9 yards/touch)

Rushing + receiving + kick returns:
213 touches, 1303 yards (6.12 yards/touch)

6.12 =/= 6.05 (which is what he tweeted)
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