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  • jcs
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Originally posted by northvan49erman:
Originally posted by jcs:
Looking at just Physical talent only 2% of the RB's in history have a better Sparq score.

Yeah and one of them is already on the team and he costs nothing.

Except he's not ready to be a starting RB with his struggles pass blocking and catching the ball.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by RabidNiner:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i agree, but you know this as well as i do.. when people do question it. they are called haters, trolls and are told to go root for another team. sad thing is. until you came down from the mother ship. the mods here just let that stuff go. thank you

You calling yourself out CC

why should i have a different approach to cc the poster as compared to 98 per cent of this board?!

99%

sorry. i tried to fudge the numbers
Originally posted by WildBill:
I have to ask, is McKinnon a better fit than Dion Lewis? Lewis had better numbers as a runner 5.0 vs 3.9 Can catch the ball out of the backfield (although McKinnon wins the yds per catch 8.9 vs. 6.7), and can pass protect. I don't mind the pick up, but I think we overpaid on this one. Lewis came cheaper, could have upped the ante and still pay less for a proven back 4/23M vs 4/32M. McKinnon is 2 years younger. 25 vs 27(?).

Lewis is 3 yrs older and has battled injuries throughout his career. McKinnon is also about 20 lbs bigger than him.

Also you have to look at the actual contracts not the media numbers before saying anything
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lewis is 3 yrs older and has battled injuries throughout his career. McKinnon is also about 20 lbs bigger than him.

Also you have to look at the actual contracts not the media numbers before saying anything

Yes but added bonus would have been Dion Jimmy G familiarity
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Arian Foster wasn't a big back but he had the power to fight inside as well. You don't need a massive back, just someone that can keep the wheels moving.


My worry is that this precludes them from dipping into an amazing draft class of RBs loaded with complete, 3 down RBs who can get you yards inside and outside.



If their plan is to still go RB somewhat early and move on from Williams then I am down.

Foster was like 6-1 227 that's a bigger back dude
Originally posted by post_primitive:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I never said that. Please make your point without putting words in my mouth thanks.

Dude. You literally said "you don't give someone 30 million to split carries."


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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by northvan49erman:
I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

Lol.

Lol he brings up earl Mitchell's contract what? His cap hit is like $3.8 million wow just awful.

What a joke...people actually think players don't get overpaid a little in FA? Less then 24 hrs ago everyone was whining about not signing anyone NOW everyone is whining that we did...I see why we get called the whiners

If people can't open their eyes and see what Mckinnon will actually be in this offense (not just a RB) then I don't know what to tell ya.

I don't give to flying f**k if he gets yards on the ground or in the air but he's gonna happen in this system.

I hate how some people just nitpick little things ... he mentioned Mitchell and other people ... why just focus on Mitchell?? Yeah that's 3-4 million u can save by drafting 6th/7th rounded to fill that hole and Roll over the $ instead of spending on redundant position !

Juice got paid what?? 5mil per year ? Because he was offensive weapon?? Lol.. he got 300 yards receiving !

I thought Shanahans specialty is finding rbs in draft... So many good rb's coming out this year .. sorry I just don't see reason to spend 30mil on someone that was 3rd on his teams depth chart!

Look at belichick how he builds his team, I don't see many overpaid players!
You should look at Juszcyzk's stats over the last 5 games before you poo poo his production.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lewis is 3 yrs older and has battled injuries throughout his career. McKinnon is also about 20 lbs bigger than him.

Also you have to look at the actual contracts not the media numbers before saying anything

Yes but added bonus would have been Dion Jimmy G familiarity

True, but a 3 yrs age difference is a big deal for the RB position.
But, is he hurt like Hyde during multiple games thru out the year?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
I agree with this. They need a bigger back. I was looking back at Kyle's OC days and Alfred Morris is really the only big back (220 Lbs) he's had. He had 1600 yards in '12 but that was also the pistol/read option in fused RGIII year.


Arian Foster wasn't a big back but he had the power to fight inside as well. You don't need a massive back, just someone that can keep the wheels moving.


My worry is that this precludes them from dipping into an amazing draft class of RBs loaded with complete, 3 down RBs who can get you yards inside and outside.



If their plan is to still go RB somewhat early and move on from Williams then I am down.

I was think Foster too, but he only had Kyle as OC in 2009 and only had 50 carries in his first year. Foster's breakout year was under Dennison as OC in '10. Kyle was in Washington at that time.
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
It's funny, over in R/NFL you have Viking fans telling us we got a good player. We got fans of other teams talking about how he's gonna flourish in Kyle's system. Then you come to the webzone and people are having a damn meltdown .

Im not worried about the contract. How do yall not know by now to wait until the actual details of it come out before judging it?

It is pretty funny.
  • dald1
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I swear everyone overreacts before reading the actual contracts of these players.
  • fan49
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
So in this scenario, does his pro bowl center sustain an injury, does 8 of his 11 or so runs fail to get back to the LOS and is his defense s**tting up yards at almost a 600 yard pace? Oh and does his pro bowl Qb having an all time season take a ridiculously bad sack? All of these factors had a had in the playcalling down the stretch in that SB.



I think a major issue is that New England took away the outside zone and forced them inside. What I'd like to see is a more well rounded RB that you can trust to take it inside and pick up those tough yards.


Right now you have three of the exact same back types. Its going to be disappointing if that isn't addressed via the draft b at some point in time I can see it coming back to bite this team.

I agree with this. They need a bigger back. I was looking back at Kyle's OC days and Alfred Morris is really the only big back (220 Lbs) he's had. He had 1600 yards in '12 but that was also the pistol/read option in fused RGIII year.

Pretty simple get rid of Williams (or trade him) and pickup a in-between the tackle runner...this draft is full of them...I don't see many RBs that have Mckinnon's Skill set though.

McKinnon/rookie and bredia there it is
Don't know about brieda in that situation. Mostert is on the squad due to special teams
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Peter Schrager on NFL Networks just now "At least 2 other teams were willing to pay McKinnon the same amount, he chose 49ers because that's where he wanted to play"

The WZ is seething right now

Nice! The Garoppolo effect!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lewis is 3 yrs older and has battled injuries throughout his career. McKinnon is also about 20 lbs bigger than him.

Also you have to look at the actual contracts not the media numbers before saying anything

Yes but added bonus would have been Dion Jimmy G familiarity

True, but a 3 yrs age difference is a big deal for the RB position.

Yep. I like Mckinnon more due to youth/health

Need contract details and AB to tell me what it means
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