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Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Pretty simple get rid of Williams (or trade him) and pickup a in-between the tackle runner...this draft is full of them...I don't see many RBs that have Mckinnon's Skill set though.

McKinnon/rookie and bredia there it is


If they did that and picked up a guy like Freeman. I am down.
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Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Plagiarized this from a poster at Ninersnation.

Devonte Freeman: | Jerick McKinnon:
Ht- 5 ft 8 in | Ht- 5 ft 9 in
Wt- 206lb | Wt- 209lb
40yard- 4.58s | 40yard- 4.37s
10yard- 1.59s | 10yard- 1.49s
20yard- ? | 20yard- 2.52s
Vert- 31.5 in | Vert- 40.5 in
Broad- 9ft 10in | Broad- 11ft
| BenchPress- 32
| *(40yard, 10yard, Vert, Bench= better than Saquan Barkley)

Danke for the research!
Not a fan of the move, but you have to trust that Shanny knows what he is doing and what he wants in a back.

Anyhow, here's my concern with McKinnon. Look at his numbers compared to his backfield partners the last two years.

2017


2016


SPARQ is nice and all, but the sport is football, not combine. Nothing in these numbers or his career numbers, suggests an explosive player.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by northvan49erman:
I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

Lol.

Lol he brings up earl Mitchell's contract what? His cap hit is like $3.8 million wow just awful.

What a joke...people actually think players don't get overpaid a little in FA? Less then 24 hrs ago everyone was whining about not signing anyone NOW everyone is whining that we did...I see why we get called the whiners

If people can't open their eyes and see what Mckinnon will actually be in this offense (not just a RB) then I don't know what to tell ya.

I don't give to flying f**k if he gets yards on the ground or in the air but he's gonna happen in this system.

I hate how some people just nitpick little things ... he mentioned Mitchell and other people ... why just focus on Mitchell?? Yeah that's 3-4 million u can save by drafting 6th/7th rounded to fill that hole and Roll over the $ instead of spending on redundant position !

Juice got paid what?? 5mil per year ? Because he was offensive weapon?? Lol.. he got 300 yards receiving !

I thought Shanahans specialty is finding rbs in draft... So many good rb's coming out this year .. sorry I just don't see reason to spend 30mil on someone that was 3rd on his teams depth chart!

Look at belichick how he builds his team, I don't see many overpaid players!
You should look at Juszcyzk's stats over the last 5 games before you poo poo his production.

Dude doesn't know what he's talking about, whatever lol...complaining about paying a player $7 million like that's a f**king ton of money when you have a cap of $178 million. Ryan grant gets the same deal and he's horrible lol. Yeah they're stupid because they paid a starting NT 4 million because they CLEARLY can get the same player in the 6th rd lol.

It will be funny to look back at these comments and people complaining about money that's not even theirs when McKinnon is throwing up 1,200+ scrimmage yards for us.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Foster was like 6-1 227 that's a bigger back dude

I thought he was around 210 for some reason. In that case Shanahan had bigger backs everywhere but Atlanta.
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How can anyone criticize this signing before seeing the actual numbers and structure? Lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by northvan49erman:
A reminder that the Vikings brought in Latavius Murray AND Dalvin Cook last year, with McKinnon already on the roster.

4th highest paid RB in the league. Terrible.

We heard you the 1st 3 times you said this lol. Go look at what the Vikings ran (inside zone/power) is that McKinnon's game? Nope is that Murray's game? Yes.

You'll be singing a different tune this yr watching him line up vs LBers and roasting them...don't care how he gets yards but he will.

All you people thinking you're smarter than shanahan regarding football

Haven't said this once, bud.

And the ol' "you think you're smarter than the coach argument." is just about the weakest argument anyone can come up with in sports.

I guess Bill Barnwell doesn't know anything about football then.

"You think you're smarter than Hue Jackson?"... Well...

Three tenets of success in the modern NFL:

1) Don't overpay your QB (SB finalists average around 11% of cap hit)
2) Don't overpay at RB
3) Get pass rushers.

49ers haven't done any of these things.

Sure I hope it works out, we all do. But this is the second offseason in a row with some questionable overpayments for marginal players.

Have people forgotten the team started 0-10 last year? One good trade doesn't excuse a number of poor decisions.
[ Edited by northvan49erman on Mar 14, 2018 at 11:11 AM ]
Originally posted by northvan49erman:
Haven't said this once, bud.

And the ol' "you think you're smarter than the GM argument." is just about the weakest argument anyone can come up with in sports.

I guess Bill Barnwell doesn't know anything about football then.

"You think you're smarter than Hue Jackson?"... Well...

Three tenets of success in the modern NFL:

1) Don't overpay your QB (SB finalists average around 11% of cap hit)
2) Don't overpay at RB
3) Get pass rushers.

49ers haven't done any of these things.

Sure I hope it works out, we all do. But this is the second offseason in a row with some questionable overpayments for marginal players.

Have people forgotten the team started 0-10 last year? One good trade doesn't excuse a number of poor decisions.

Don't overpay your QB? Say what?

New England, New Orleans, Pittsburg and pretty much every other team in the history of football wins games dependant on their QB play.

It's Lynn's fault he inherited a team void of talent and rebuilt it in a year?? Good Lord. Some people on here.
[ Edited by SteveYoung on Mar 14, 2018 at 11:13 AM ]
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.
A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.
When you have the lead, like Kyle had in the super bowl, the 4 minute offense is just as important as the 2 minute offense. I'm looking to see if we can get a Tom Rathman type guy for the 4 minute offense. Juice definitely is In the picture for that offense, but I'd like a bigger more powerful Juice that can also catch like Tom could, for the 4 minute offense.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Foster was like 6-1 227 that's a bigger back dude

I thought he was around 210 for some reason. In that case Shanahan had bigger backs everywhere but Atlanta.

Slaton and Ahmad Green was his lead backs in '08 in Houston. In 2009, they had a committee of back (slaton, moats, Chris Brown and Foster). Foster only got 50 carries though that year. Kyle was in wash when Foster broke out.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Mar 14, 2018 at 11:13 AM ]
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Bill Barnwell gave the 49ers an F for the McKinnon signing. Oh no! It's over! 4-12 here we come!
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Foster was like 6-1 227 that's a bigger back dude

I thought he was around 210 for some reason. In that case Shanahan had bigger backs everywhere but Atlanta.

Yeah originally I didn't think he was that big either...I also didn't think McKinnon is 216
Originally posted by znk916:
Not a fan of the move, but you have to trust that Shanny knows what he is doing and what he wants in a back.

Anyhow, here's my concern with McKinnon. Look at his numbers compared to his backfield partners the last two years.

2017


2016


SPARQ is nice and all, but the sport is football, not combine. Nothing in these numbers or his career numbers, suggests an explosive player.
so the explosive highlights are fake ?
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Joecool:
The fact that we paid a backup RB more than Hyde was willing to sign for 100% validates all observation that Hyde was never good for this system and there's just something missing in him.
A lot of people here who know their stuff and have been playing football in college or earlier have been saying that since Kyle came on board. *I* could see it and I'm not anywhere near some of these folks in terms of expertise. Now to compliment Breida/McKinnon/Joe Williams etc.. we need that thunder than can operate in the zone run. Preferably a big back that has outside speed to scare defenses. Not a Saquan (he'll be gone), but maybe somebody *like* him somewhere in the 3rd through 5th rounds?

I don't know if you need a "thunder" option at RB when you have a FB like Juszcek. Thunder is only gonna get 2-3 carries a game, so let Juice fill that role.
False. when leading, Thunder comes in to close out games in the 4th qtr

Originally posted by FL9er:
Bill Barnwell gave the 49ers an F for the McKinnon signing. Oh no! It's over! 4-12 here we come!

Who the f**k is bill barnwell lol
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