Mike McGlinchey-OT-Denver Broncos

Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Would not shock me if by mid season McKivitz looks fine.

That is what we all hope...but what if he costs us the first half of the season while he learns?

At the same time McKivitz is "learning on the job," we will likely have a QB who is also "learning on the job."

With home field such a huge advantage in the playoffs, can we afford to sacrifice 2-3 games while a couple of guys at key positions learn how to play?

That is the question that will be fueling NT from now until September.

I think they hedge against that.

I don't think they will pay McG what his going rate will be, I think they get a cheaper option as insurance to back up McKivitz.

McKivitz is not exactly an unknown.... he has had 300+ snaps and who knows how many practices.

I suspect they have a clear idea of what he can do and what he can't do.

For us fans that don't get to watch the guy in practice, we can at least take solace in the fact he has zero flags thrown at him in his 300+ game snaps. That is worth at least an optimistic frame of mind. When you have a guy that can be stuck in all kinds of spots and does not have "his spot" that alone can get some one off kilter. Am I a LT today? RT? Being that swing man means you can't just go do your thing.

On top of that, we have all seen what happens when an o-lineman is in over his head....they jump the snap, they hold...they end up getting flagged because they are in over their head. While McKivitz is not perfect (his PFF grade came in just under McG) he at least is not in so far over his head he is a flag machine.

We all wish we had prime Trent Williams at LT and prime Joe Staley at RT, but that damn salary cap keeps jacking everything up.

The poster before me said something like "Hey guys it can get worse then having McG at RT" and he is right. I would just add that "Hey guys it can get worse then not having the team spend 3 seasons grooming the guy they wanted to take over at RT".

At least the team saw this coming, had a plan, and the guy they want to take over has at least shown he is calm, steady and not in over his head.

Lets hope they target another Tackle in the draft (because will will have this conversation again very soon with Trent), bring in some mid-tier vets that provide stability incase our injury bug spreads to the line and get these young guys up to speed asap.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

MM gave up a pressure rate of 4.0% in a season where he was coming back from a major injury. That is far from being worse than any other RT in the league. lol

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

MM gave up a pressure rate of 4.0% in a season where he was coming back from a major injury. That is far from being worse than any other RT in the league. lol

He's not as bad as claimed on here. Even a good player. Just not great at pass blocking. But I think he's a very good run blocker. Not as bad at pass blocking as the claims on this board. But certainly not great either. He's due for 1 highlight bad play a game. But it's not all game long either.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

MM gave up a pressure rate of 4.0% in a season where he was coming back from a major injury. That is far from being worse than any other RT in the league. lol

He's not as bad as claimed on here. Even a good player. Just not great at pass blocking. But I think he's a very good run blocker. Not as bad at pass blocking as the claims on this board. But certainly not great either. He's due for 1 highlight bad play a game. But it's not all game long either.

Can't block anyone man to man in pass pro, he gets thrown around like a small child. Pretty bad IMO

I see no difference in MM and Kinlaw.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining next year.

FTFY

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Same guys that complain about him will complain they didn't resign him. We saw that with Tomlinson

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Same guys that complain about him will complain they didn't resign him. We saw that with Tomlinson

These same guys ignore facts because it doesn't jive with their emotions.

It's all math guys. The idea of trading Buckner was getting half or 50% the player for 20% of the money. At that time AA had no trade value. The theory made sense. They just chose the wrong player, and overpaid AA. The idea was good, execution sucked.

MM is gonna get 15-17m I'm hearing. Mckivitz might be 50% the player but he'll be like 10% of the cost. I prefer to get a better player for less money if possible. I think it is. But MM at 15-17 is insane to me no matter what they do to replace him.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

Its actually pretty easy. McGlinchey is a very good run blocker and a middle of the pack pass blocker, if you think it can't get worse then you are very unfamiliar with the overall state of offensive line play in the NFL currently.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Rest assured that Niners fans will be complaining about losing McGlinchey if the O line has problems next year.

Yeah they will. Bet on it.

Nah, hard to get worse than MM

Its actually pretty easy. McGlinchey is a very good run blocker and a middle of the pack pass blocker, if you think it can't get worse then you are very unfamiliar with the overall state of offensive line play in the NFL currently.

Yup. Been saying that all season.

The league typically puts most of the money into left tackle. Then center. Whatever is left in the budget they use it to pat=y the guards and the right tackle. I would prefer they use the money they save to try and find a better center. Brendel was okay but they could use an upgrade with a little more experience.

Trent Williams has a $27 million cap hit for 2023. he rest of the signed O line has a cap hit of about $4 million. Brendel, McKivitz and Brunskill aren't signed in addition to McGlinchey

Originally posted by davidboutte:
It's all math guys. The idea of trading Buckner was getting half or 50% the player for 20% of the money. At that time AA had no trade value. The theory made sense. They just chose the wrong player, and overpaid AA. The idea was good, execution sucked.

MM is gonna get 15-17m I'm hearing. Mckivitz might be 50% the player but he'll be like 10% of the cost. I prefer to get a better player for less money if possible. I think it is. But MM at 15-17 is insane to me no matter what they do to replace him.

I'm seeing places like Spotrac say McGlinchey's market value is now $14.8, so you are not far off. That would put his salary at a level that is commensurate with other RTs in the same range of performance. By the time Jawaan Taylor signs his new contract McGlinchey will be #9 in RT salary level. In another year, there will be 2-3 RTs that will most likely get more than that. So, that is what you have to pay in order to get McGlinchey's level of RT play. (Spotrac has been pretty close in the past in estimating market value.)

As to McKivitz's level of play, I understand you are using hyperbole but we cannot afford a significant reduction in the level of play at RT, certainly not a 50% reduction.