Mike McGlinchey-OT-Denver Broncos

Originally posted by dj43:
I'm seeing places like Spotrac say McGlinchey's market value is now $14.8, so you are not far off. That would put his salary at a level that is commensurate with other RTs in the same range of performance. By the time Jawaan Taylor signs his new contract McGlinchey will be #9 in RT salary level. In another year, there will be 2-3 RTs that will most likely get more than that. So, that is what you have to pay in order to get McGlinchey's level of RT play. (Spotrac has been pretty close in the past in estimating market value.)

As to McKivitz's level of play, I understand you are using hyperbole but we cannot afford a significant reduction in the level of play at RT, certainly not a 50% reduction.

I think it's quite possible the young guys see a job there for the taking and with the starter reps just take it over. An example is Mack retired and Brendel handled his stuff. Now we need to resign Brendel. We got a pretty exciting youth movement here.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The league typically puts most of the money into left tackle. Then center. Whatever is left in the budget they use it to pat=y the guards and the right tackle. I would prefer they use the money they save to try and find a better center. Brendel was okay but they could use an upgrade with a little more experience.

Your comment led me to do some research on how the money is spread around. I chose to compare the 10th highest paid player in each position. Here is what I found:
LT - $16.6M ------------ RT - $6.5M - confirms the bias we all know. Blind side is worth more.
LG - $6.2M ------------ RG - $7.5 - Ironically the flip is true for guards. On both sides, the top few guys get paid, then there is a steep drop-off to #10
Center - $9M - OL quarterbacks get paid.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The league typically puts most of the money into left tackle. Then center. Whatever is left in the budget they use it to pat=y the guards and the right tackle. I would prefer they use the money they save to try and find a better center. Brendel was okay but they could use an upgrade with a little more experience.

Your comment led me to do some research on how the money is spread around. I chose to compare the 10th highest paid player in each position. Here is what I found:
LT - $16.6M ------------ RT - $6.5M - confirms the bias we all know. Blind side is worth more.
LG - $6.2M ------------ RG - $7.5 - Ironically the flip is true for guards. On both sides, the top few guys get paid, then there is a steep drop-off to #10
Center - $9M - OL quarterbacks get paid.

That's cool to see - I would of assumed centers were paid less RTs but it's cool to see they aren't. Goes to show you how teams value that position, even though they don't get in love in the media/fanbases usually.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The league typically puts most of the money into left tackle. Then center. Whatever is left in the budget they use it to pat=y the guards and the right tackle. I would prefer they use the money they save to try and find a better center. Brendel was okay but they could use an upgrade with a little more experience.

Your comment led me to do some research on how the money is spread around. I chose to compare the 10th highest paid player in each position. Here is what I found:
LT - $16.6M ------------ RT - $6.5M - confirms the bias we all know. Blind side is worth more.
LG - $6.2M ------------ RG - $7.5 - Ironically the flip is true for guards. On both sides, the top few guys get paid, then there is a steep drop-off to #10
Center - $9M - OL quarterbacks get paid.

The guess is teams run to the right more often but there isn't much difference. Great numbers to give perspective on O-line.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49ers fans are about to find out we can get worse if he leaves at RT. Yes we can. Certainly in run blocking. He's not as bad as made out to be here on this board. I wouldn't break the bank. But I would bet he's better than our backups. Colton McKivitz is pretty good. But I don't think he is as powerful as a run blocker. He may have a little better feet as a pass blocker. But I wouldn't be opposed to re signing Mcglinchey for a fair price. More depth at Tackle is always better than less. The season is long and there are lots of injuries.

You just said in the offseason need thread they need better pass blockers

Yeah that's right and you can do WORSE than Mcglinchey at RT. Wait until next year. You will BEG for him back. You will see soon. He's not as bad as the WZ thinks. Albeit not perfect. A better run blocker than pass blocker.

He was ranked a bottom third of the league T. Yes we can do worse, but I trust this front office to ensure we don't. McGlinchy was a liability much of the year and I'd be fine with him moving on. He's sucked since Joe left imo.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The league typically puts most of the money into left tackle. Then center. Whatever is left in the budget they use it to pat=y the guards and the right tackle. I would prefer they use the money they save to try and find a better center. Brendel was okay but they could use an upgrade with a little more experience.

Your comment led me to do some research on how the money is spread around. I chose to compare the 10th highest paid player in each position. Here is what I found:
LT - $16.6M ------------ RT - $6.5M - confirms the bias we all know. Blind side is worth more.
LG - $6.2M ------------ RG - $7.5 - Ironically the flip is true for guards. On both sides, the top few guys get paid, then there is a steep drop-off to #10
Center - $9M - OL quarterbacks get paid.

The guess is teams run to the right more often but there isn't much difference. Great numbers to give perspective on O-line.

It also shows that since their LT is usually stronger than their RT they want their better G at RG, with their weaker G playing next to their LT to help them out.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49ers fans are about to find out we can get worse if he leaves at RT. Yes we can. Certainly in run blocking. He's not as bad as made out to be here on this board. I wouldn't break the bank. But I would bet he's better than our backups. Colton McKivitz is pretty good. But I don't think he is as powerful as a run blocker. He may have a little better feet as a pass blocker. But I wouldn't be opposed to re signing Mcglinchey for a fair price. More depth at Tackle is always better than less. The season is long and there are lots of injuries.

You just said in the offseason need thread they need better pass blockers

Yeah that's right and you can do WORSE than Mcglinchey at RT. Wait until next year. You will BEG for him back. You will see soon. He's not as bad as the WZ thinks. Albeit not perfect. A better run blocker than pass blocker.

He was ranked a bottom third of the league T. Yes we can do worse, but I trust this front office to ensure we don't. McGlinchy was a liability much of the year and I'd be fine with him moving on. He's sucked since Joe left imo.

You're entitled to your opinion but data shows your opinion is not reflected in the data.

McGlinchey rates average in PP and above average in RBLK. Overall, he is the 11th highest overall ranking among RTs. There will be 6-8 teams that will be bidding for his services once FA signing time arrives.

Let other teams have him and then watch Bosa rag doll him. Hopefully he goes to Seattle or Arizona.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49ers fans are about to find out we can get worse if he leaves at RT. Yes we can. Certainly in run blocking. He's not as bad as made out to be here on this board. I wouldn't break the bank. But I would bet he's better than our backups. Colton McKivitz is pretty good. But I don't think he is as powerful as a run blocker. He may have a little better feet as a pass blocker. But I wouldn't be opposed to re signing Mcglinchey for a fair price. More depth at Tackle is always better than less. The season is long and there are lots of injuries.

You just said in the offseason need thread they need better pass blockers

Yeah that's right and you can do WORSE than Mcglinchey at RT. Wait until next year. You will BEG for him back. You will see soon. He's not as bad as the WZ thinks. Albeit not perfect. A better run blocker than pass blocker.

He was ranked a bottom third of the league T. Yes we can do worse, but I trust this front office to ensure we don't. McGlinchy was a liability much of the year and I'd be fine with him moving on. He's sucked since Joe left imo.

You're entitled to your opinion but data shows your opinion is not reflected in the data.

McGlinchey rates average in PP and above average in RBLK. Overall, he is the 11th highest overall ranking among RTs. There will be 6-8 teams that will be bidding for his services once FA signing time arrives.

11th isn't bad. Mike has grown on me at times. I'm worried if we are going to have money to spend after everyone else and guys available when we get to pick not the cream of the crop (unless magic happens again with later picks but how far can that wish upon a star go?) Then Trent's eventual replacement. When Mike is gone and we have a rook in doing even worse Mike might get some respect.

They need to spend huge draft capital on the OL and hope for improvements. We can't have another year without Trey or Brock due to injury.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Let other teams have him and then watch Bosa rag doll him. Hopefully he goes to Seattle or Arizona.

My guess is he will go to a desperate team like the Bears that covet run blockers because their quarterback can't pass that well yet. Needless to say, he will not help in terms of pass protection he might even make it worse

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Let other teams have him and then watch Bosa rag doll him. Hopefully he goes to Seattle or Arizona.

Remember Erik Pears? Kwame Harris? Those were bad tackles. MM has some very bad and obvious whiffs, but it isn't every play or even close. Just very inconsistent.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Let other teams have him and then watch Bosa rag doll him. Hopefully he goes to Seattle or Arizona.

Remember Erik Pears? Kwame Harris? Those were bad tackles. MM has some very bad and obvious whiffs, but it isn't every play or even close. Just very inconsistent.

MM reminds me of Kwame Harris.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Let other teams have him and then watch Bosa rag doll him. Hopefully he goes to Seattle or Arizona.

Remember Erik Pears? Kwame Harris? Those were bad tackles. MM has some very bad and obvious whiffs, but it isn't every play or even close. Just very inconsistent.

Unfortunately I do. I also remember posters blaming Kap for his bad play. lol

Not sure he's worth bringing back.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Not sure he's worth bringing back.

For 10 million he is however he will be getting a lot more than that from a desperate team