WR Dante "Do something...anything" Pettis

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, Kyle talked about him being great in bump and run but I couldn't find one single route where he was truly squared up and contested with coming off the LOS. In fact, he was "clean" on every route which plays into his best skill sets (quickness, ability to sell his routes, crisp routes, sneaky speed, etc.). So for now, it's just a concern. No doubt Sherman and Witherspoon will test the hell out of him at the LOS and that can only make him better going forward. We'll play against a ton of really good press CB's next year. But Kyle can move him off the LOS to give him more space to work with too. Great point about coming back for contested catches too. He'll have to learn how to box out more, timing, etc.

Assuage your concerns. Pettis beats press at the LOS with varied releases, quick feet, and hand fighting. Dude does it all.

I doubt Kyle would value a WR prospect as highly as he does Pettis if there was a glaring weakiness to the Pettis' game such as not being able to beat press. I like that his family has professional sports in their bloodlines.

I think ppl assume that his lack of weight means he can't beat press but I'm pretty sure lynch addressed that in the presser. He said they liked how he was able to beat the press with his footwork.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Looks like a pretty good player that can do it all. Will probably start next to Garcon.

Seriously doubt he starts ahead of Goodwin. I think he will see a lot of action as a 3rd WR and perhaps take Taylor's spot as the #1 slot receiver. He will make this unit much more explosive.

I didnt like trading up and giving up a 3rd to get him but I do think he will be a big contributor.

Yeah one way or another he sees a lot of action.

I don't know much about value and draft position stuff so I'll take your word for it. As long as he catches the ball when JG gets it to him I'm good.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Assuage your concerns. Pettis beats press at the LOS with varied releases, quick feet, and hand fighting. Dude does it all.

Shanahan said, "He's got the lower half where he can cut outside of his frame and be good with his feet." Would you say this play shows that?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Rascal:
So, big WRs can't get open?

Weren't Julio Jones (6'3" 220 lbs) and Mohamed Sanu (6'2" 210 lbs) Kyle Shanahan's WRs??

Julio Jones is a special top 5 talent. Shanahan wouldn't have drafted Sanu.

So, there you go, Julio Jones proves that you don't need to be skin and bones in order to get open and to play for Kyle Shanahan.

Or are you saying unless you are a top 5 talent, no big physical WRs can meet Shanahan's requirements?

You don't think Shanahan would take the Julio Jones/Mohamed Sanu WR tandem over any of our WR combos?

I don't know about you, I would take Julio Jones and Sanu over any of our WRs any day!! If you have two equally skilled WRs, surely you would take the bigger guy right? Give you an example, if I can pick between Julio Jones or OBJ, I would take Julio Jones any day and is not even close!!

A Julio Jones caliber player wasn't in this draft.

Dudes like Julio Jones don't come around every yr lol...kyle has even stated he'd take a Julio Jones all day every day but he's a "generational" talent at WR.

Let's be realistic people smh. Most "big" WRs aren't elite route runners and most don't have 4.4 speed like Jones has...if they do they got top 5 in the draft.

You don't need to be Julio Jones.

Get this, I didn't say it, but even our very own HOF wide receiver or more commonly knows as the GOAT Jerry Rice himself wanted us to draft Courtland Sutton who is 6'5" and 218 lbs because he wanted to give Jimmy G a legit weapon on the outside. I am pretty sure Jerry knows a thing or two about WRs. Just a rough guess. LOL.

Also, get with the program, Pettis' instant draft grade given by the analysts, wait for it, is a massively impressive "B-"!! LOL. I didn't grade him, the experts did!!

Plus, to top it off, let's face it, Lynch panicked, we didn't need to trade up to get him.

Not upset about this pick. Call him mr. YAC, our screen game just got a whole lot better

Originally posted by 49erphan:

Shanahan said, "He's got the lower half where he can cut outside of his frame and be good with his feet." Would you say this play shows that?

Absolutely not. Don't believe Kyle's lies

Maybe the 49ers felt the need to trade up to get in front of the Packers who might have been eyeing Pettis.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Reminds me of paul richardson

reminds me of AJ Jenkins

Originally posted by Rascal:

You don't need to be Julio Jones.

Get this, I didn't say it, but even our very own HOF wide receiver or more commonly knows as the GOAT Jerry Rice himself wanted us to draft Courtland Sutton who is 6'5" and 218 lbs because he wanted to give Jimmy G a legit weapon on the outside. I am pretty sure Jerry knows a thing or two about WRs. Just a rough guess. LOL.

Also, get with the program, Pettis' instant draft grade given by the analysts, wait for it, is a massively impressive "B-"!! LOL. I didn't grade him, the experts did!!

Plus, to top it off, let's face it, Lynch panicked, we didn't need to trade up to get him.

Pretty sure Kyle knows a thing or two about the types of wide receivers he wants and needs for his offense.

And you have no proof Lynch panicked and that they could have got him at 59. It is just a wild guess on your part. Unless you can show us 31 other teams draft boards, that comment is not factual in the least.

As for the experts, who cares what they think. Those same experts are wrong all the time. Their opinions do not play games or win games on Sundays.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Concerns:

• Remember Kyle Williams and Quinton Patton outside? Beat. To. Hell.
• Press is going to be a big struggle at the NFL level
• Rashard Robinson-like frame; expect hamstring and various nagging injuries. Needs a year in the weight room.
• Watching his tape, he played some horrendous DB's (wow, just wow)
• Going to have to learn 3 positions within a complicated WCO route tree
• We barely used Bolden Jr. last year so will we get the return in returns?

Overall: He's Kyle guy and I have little doubt he'll fit in nicely in the offense and he'll know how best to use him and will adjust. Solid pick. Poor value considering the trade up.

Just a little devils advocate...(knowing you wanted to be balanced with your post )
- Kyle W and Patton werent Shanahan guys. Cant really compare them to a hand picked guy. The receivers he has targeted so far have already contributed more than either of the two from the previous regime.
- It was supposed to be a big struggle for Goodwin too.... who is even smaller.
- Over generalization, for every Robinson there is a Harrison or Moss. (Not comparing Pettis to them career wise, just skinny wise) There is more of a correlation to speed and hamstring pulls vs frame and hamstrings, but I dont think anyone is gonna shy away from speed due to the increased risk.
- Cant really hold who they played against him... the pac 12 is still the pac 12, wasnt like he was going against FCS schools.
- Kind of an exaggeration based on the assumption the coaches wont identify where they want him, have him learn that first and then start integrating more and more... unlikely.
- Bolden? its a 46 man roster. Gotta have versatility to make it, especially as a rookie.

And to those comparing him to Paul Richardson.... No, just no. I saw every CU home game Richardson played in person and loved him in college. But even with my alumni bias I stated in his pre-draft thread that he was always gonna be an injury prone 2 route receiver and to this date hasnt showed much different. The comparison stop at height and weight, play styles arent remotely close. Richardson was never gonna be confused for a slot receiver.

Originally posted by evil:
Pretty sure Kyle knows a thing or two about the types of wide receivers he wants and needs for his offense.

And you have no proof Lynch panicked and that they could have got him at 59. It is just a wild guess on your part. Unless you can show us 31 other teams draft boards, that comment is not factual in the least.

As for the experts, who cares what they think. Those same experts are wrong all the time. Their opinions do not play games or win games on Sundays.

Pretty sure Jerry Rice knows way more about WRs than Kyle Shanahan. I am definitely taking a HOF WR's POV over a 1 1/2 year head coach. Other positions might be different, but when it comes to WRs, hell no, I am sticking by the GOAT!!

Is obvious Lynch panicked, but if you want to get anal about it having to see every teams' big boards then I guess I don't have solid proof. But, you and I know what the majority of people think.

Last but not least, of course experts matter. You are no expert, your opinion is just an opinion, is neither worse or better than my opinion. Experts' opinions might not win games per se, but you have no "proof" nor the expertise to say Pettis' lowly draft grade of "B-" wasn't warranted or to say that he will definitely win games for the 9ers.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Shanny's track record on o speaks for itself. If he wants a Pettis that's fine with me.

What he's doing on d has me more concerned.

Agree

I really never heard of Trent Taylor before we picked him and he turned out to be an excellent pick.

Hopefully this guy will also light it up.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Concerns:

• Remember Kyle Williams and Quinton Patton outside? Beat. To. Hell.
• Press is going to be a big struggle at the NFL level
• Rashard Robinson-like frame; expect hamstring and various nagging injuries. Needs a year in the weight room.
• Watching his tape, he played some horrendous DB's (wow, just wow)
• Going to have to learn 3 positions within a complicated WCO route tree
• We barely used Bolden Jr. last year so will we get the return in returns?

Overall: He's Kyle guy and I have little doubt he'll fit in nicely in the offense and he'll know how best to use him and will adjust. Solid pick. Poor value considering the trade up.

Just a little devils advocate...(knowing you wanted to be balanced with your post )
- Kyle W and Patton werent Shanahan guys. Cant really compare them to a hand picked guy. The receivers he has targeted so far have already contributed more than either of the two from the previous regime.
- It was supposed to be a big struggle for Goodwin too.... who is even smaller.
- Over generalization, for every Robinson there is a Harrison or Moss. (Not comparing Pettis to them career wise, just skinny wise) There is more of a correlation to speed and hamstring pulls vs frame and hamstrings, but I dont think anyone is gonna shy away from speed due to the increased risk.
- Cant really hold who they played against him... the pac 12 is still the pac 12, wasnt like he was going against FCS schools.
- Kind of an exaggeration based on the assumption the coaches wont identify where they want him, have him learn that first and then start integrating more and more... unlikely.
- Bolden? its a 46 man roster. Gotta have versatility to make it, especially as a rookie.

And to those comparing him to Paul Richardson.... No, just no. I saw every CU home game Richardson played in person and loved him in college. But even with my alumni bias I stated in his pre-draft thread that he was always gonna be an injury prone 2 route receiver and to this date hasnt showed much different. The comparison stop at height and weight, play styles arent remotely close. Richardson was never gonna be confused for a slot receiver.

Nope. The receivers that Shanahan has targeted in terms of numbers have been massively jacked up by Jimmy G in the last 5 games which you have conveniently omitted.

Do you honestly think Goodwin would have had a chance of touching 1,000 yards if Hoyer had remained as the QB? Heck no! LOL.

That is why Jimmy G is our franchise QB, he makes everyone looks like borderline pro bowlers. LOL.