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WR Dante "Do something...anything" Pettis

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Apr 28, 2018 at 11:54 PM
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love how people are whining about this, saying we shouldn't have traded up for WR, but everyone was so heart broken when we passed on signing a WR like Robinson in FA. You can't please people nowadays, ridiculous.

Signing a true #1 receiver and trading up to reach on a on WR are two completely different stories

I think everyone would have been pleased if the 49ers had landed Allen Pretty easy to understand the frustration of trading up to reach on a WR
Apr 28, 2018 at 11:59 PM
Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love how people are whining about this, saying we shouldn't have traded up for WR, but everyone was so heart broken when we passed on signing a WR like Robinson in FA. You can't please people nowadays, ridiculous.

Signing a true #1 receiver and trading up to reach on a on WR are two completely different stories

I think everyone would have been pleased if the 49ers had landed Allen Pretty easy to understand the frustration of trading up to reach on a WR

I don't see Pettis at 44 as a reach, but that's me. He's very talented. Plus Robinsion coming off an ACL injury, I would have been ok signing him, but not for the GTD money he wanted/got, rather develop a young WR then pay a guy that kind of money, just my opinion.
Apr 29, 2018 at 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
seems like the only knock on this guy was his build. With NFL weight room training, that can change over an offseason.

I cant wait to get this guy on the field. Will be our true returner since ted ginn and will be even better~

Can lineup outside and in the slot. Runs fantastic routes.

Whats not to love?

He was expected to go 20 picks later therefore he sucks and is awful value. According to some...


He was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

Projected by who? I would bet the other 32 teams had different boards and had Pettis higher than Mel Kiper than Daniel Jeremiah and all the analyst you watch
Apr 29, 2018 at 12:17 AM
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love how people are whining about this, saying we shouldn't have traded up for WR, but everyone was so heart broken when we passed on signing a WR like Robinson in FA. You can't please people nowadays, ridiculous.

Signing a true #1 receiver and trading up to reach on a on WR are two completely different stories

I think everyone would have been pleased if the 49ers had landed Allen Pretty easy to understand the frustration of trading up to reach on a WR

I don't see Pettis at 44 as a reach, but that's me. He's very talented. Plus Robinsion coming off an ACL injury, I would have been ok signing him, but not for the GTD money he wanted/got, rather develop a young WR then pay a guy that kind of money, just my opinion.

Fair enough, for the record hope you guys right. Time will tell.
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:19 AM
Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
seems like the only knock on this guy was his build. With NFL weight room training, that can change over an offseason.

I cant wait to get this guy on the field. Will be our true returner since ted ginn and will be even better~

Can lineup outside and in the slot. Runs fantastic routes.

Whats not to love?

He was expected to go 20 picks later therefore he sucks and is awful value. According to some...


He was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

By now, you should know that's ShanaLynch's MO. They have a few guys they really really want (last year it was Beathard, Taylor, Thomas, Witherspoon, Joe Williams). they target those guys and don't worry about the "value" in picking them. The remaining picks are just "competition" and giving guys a shot to make the league.

After these last few press conferences I question "ShanaLynch's MO". There was a few times Lynch was asked an easy question and instead of directly answering he would start babeling off on some weird tangent. Kyle saved him on one. Its been mentioned already by non subjective posters that Lynch and Shanahan were contradicting themselves. In one breath they said "we don't want to just add players that arent good enough to make the team" ok fair enough then why draft 3 DB's and 2 interior DL's?? Then the tune changes to "we believe in competition" Lynch also said the way the 49ers grade players doesn't involve grading them by round, then when referring to the Streets pick he said they had a 3rd round grade on him. Even after he blew his ACL weeks ago I'm starting to think Lynch is a b******tter.

Frank Gore blew out BOTH Acls in college and still had a 3rd rd grade on him. He also played FB as a senior and backed up Willis Mcgahee.

Gore also suffered from a severe form of dyslexia and struggled mightily with reading and writing, relegating him to an education curriculum that would earn him only a special education diploma.

How did that turn out? How about we take the wait and see approach?
[ Edited by JimmyOwnz on Apr 29, 2018 at 1:36 AM ]
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:35 AM
Son of 5 time Gold Glove Angels outfielder Gary Pettis.
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:38 AM
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Pettis reminds me a lot of Andre Reed of back in the day Buffalo.
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:39 AM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Son of 5 time Gold Glove Angels outfielder Gary Pettis.

And currently third base coach for the world champion Houston Astros.
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:41 AM
Originally posted by mayo49:
Pettis reminds me a lot of Andre Reed of back in the day Buffalo.

Fair comparison, I have to agree if he gets a little stronger. Nice player comp.
Apr 29, 2018 at 2:09 AM
Originally posted by JimmyOwnz:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Pettis reminds me a lot of Andre Reed of back in the day Buffalo.

Fair comparison, I have to agree if he gets a little stronger. Nice player comp.

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Apr 29, 2018 at 2:11 AM
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love how people are whining about this, saying we shouldn't have traded up for WR, but everyone was so heart broken when we passed on signing a WR like Robinson in FA. You can't please people nowadays, ridiculous.

And the whining of not taking Landry in the first when he didnt even get taken until the 2nd, woulda been a huge reach
Apr 29, 2018 at 2:45 AM
"Where people make mistakes is when they say, 'We need a big, tall, red-zone target like Julio,' and then you go pay everyone else in the world who I can promise you isn't Julio. Now you can't go get a tight end, you can't go get a guard. Yeah, you've got that big guy, but it's got to be the right guy … You don't go, 'Hey, we need a big guy.' No, we need good receivers. They come in all shapes and sizes."

-Kyle Shanahan
Apr 29, 2018 at 3:00 AM
If he is as good as KS thinks he is then it's a good pick. I just can't see why we traded up for him. Hopefully this doesn't turn out like his crush from last year who never seen the field.

One thing I know for sure is this guy's highlights are fun as hell to watch. If he can find away to transfer his elusiveness to after he catches the ball he will be one of the most exciting players to watch in the league. That's a big if though.
Apr 29, 2018 at 3:10 AM
Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by FL9er:
"We had [Pettis] as the #2 ranked player on our board at #45."

-Packers GM, Brian Gutekunst

But muh draft board?


Stuff like this is so funny. This is why fans need to stop with the "we didn't need to select him that high!" nonsense. First it started with McGlinchey and soon after we see that Oakland clearly wanted him at #10. Now we also see that Pettis had no chance in hell of falling to #59.

I too think it is funny how so many people can say with such certainty that Pettis would have been there at 59 when 6 WRs were drafted in the 2nd round.

It does highlight the difference in draft strategy between Baalke and Shanahan/Lynch. If Baalke had 6 WRs with equal grades, he probably would trade back and take the one that was left while acquiring more draft capital. Kyle, would rather trade up and take the best fit for his scheme. We will see which one is a better draft philosophy soon enough.
Apr 29, 2018 at 3:14 AM
Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by GMniner805:

Pettis was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

By now, you should know that's ShanaLynch's MO. They have a few guys they really really want (last year it was Beathard, Taylor, Thomas, Witherspoon, Joe Williams). they target those guys and don't worry about the "value" in picking them. The remaining picks are just "competition" and giving guys a shot to make the league.

After these last few press conferences I question "ShanaLynch's MO". There was a few times Lynch was asked an easy question and instead of directly answering he would start babeling off on some weird tangent. Kyle saved him on one. Its been mentioned already by non subjective posters that Lynch and Shanahan were contradicting themselves. In one breath they said "we don't want to just add players that arent good enough to make the team" ok fair enough then why draft 3 DB's and 2 interior DL's?? Then the tune changes to "we believe in competition" Lynch also said the way the 49ers grade players doesn't involve grading them by round, then when referring to the Streets pick he said they had a 3rd round grade on him. I'm starting to think Lynch is a b******tter.

Exactly right, Lynch doesn't get the draft value.
There are two basic parts #1. Talent Evaluation, #2. Pick Value / pick projection
If you know that a player isn't likely to be picked until rd 5 you don't take him in rd 2 even if he's your favorite player. The NFL is too competitive to be constantly throwing away pick value by over-drafting players that you fall in love with, rather than waiting until the appropriate time to select a player
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