WR Dante "Do something...anything" Pettis

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
"Where people make mistakes is when they say, 'We need a big, tall, red-zone target like Julio,' and then you go pay everyone else in the world who I can promise you isn't Julio. Now you can't go get a tight end, you can't go get a guard. Yeah, you've got that big guy, but it's got to be the right guy … You don't go, 'Hey, we need a big guy.' No, we need good receivers. They come in all shapes and sizes."

-Kyle Shanahan

That's such a garbage statement.

Of course good receivers come in all shapes and sizes. In other words, there are good "big" receivers as well as good "small" receivers, that is the point!! Nobody asked Shanahan to just find us a big receiver disregard whether he is good or crap. What we wanted was a good "big" receiver and not some bag of bones!!

Unless he is saying all the other 31 teams are stupid and there is zero good big receiver in this draft which in itself will make him sound pretty darn stupid.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

seems like the only knock on this guy was his build. With NFL weight room training, that can change over an offseason.

I cant wait to get this guy on the field. Will be our true returner since ted ginn and will be even better~

Can lineup outside and in the slot. Runs fantastic routes.

Whats not to love?

He was expected to go 20 picks later therefore he sucks and is awful value. According to some...

He was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

A team that has Louis Murphy, Aaron Burbrige, Deondre Carter, Victor Boldin, Kendrick Bourne, and Aldrich Robinson on it, doesn't have a "significant need" at WR?

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

I love how people are whining about this, saying we shouldn't have traded up for WR, but everyone was so heart broken when we passed on signing a WR like Robinson in FA. You can't please people nowadays, ridiculous.

Signing a true #1 receiver and trading up to reach on a on WR are two completely different stories

I think everyone would have been pleased if the 49ers had landed Allen Pretty easy to understand the frustration of trading up to reach on a WR

BTW, Robinson was drafted in the 2nd round (61st pick) of his draft, he was the 11th WR taken and he wasn't even the 1st WR drafted by his team in that draft. How do you know Pettis isn't a "true #1 receiver?"

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

seems like the only knock on this guy was his build. With NFL weight room training, that can change over an offseason.

I cant wait to get this guy on the field. Will be our true returner since ted ginn and will be even better~

Can lineup outside and in the slot. Runs fantastic routes.

Whats not to love?

He was expected to go 20 picks later therefore he sucks and is awful value. According to some...

He was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

A team that has Louis Murphy, Aaron Burbrige, Deondre Carter, Victor Boldin, Kendrick Bourne, and Aldrich Robinson on it, doesn't have a "significant need" at WR?

That team also has Garcon, Goodwin and Taylor. We needed a WR but leaving out our top 3 WR's doesn't make sense.

BTW I agree we needed a WR and like Pettis. The more I learn about him the better I feel about him. Maybe we could have waited and got him but it doesn't look likely. I wasn't excited about the pick when it was made but it's grown on me. A great returner makes a huge difference and this guy is arguably the best ever in college football. I can't wait to see him play!

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

"Where people make mistakes is when they say, 'We need a big, tall, red-zone target like Julio,' and then you go pay everyone else in the world who I can promise you isn't Julio. Now you can't go get a tight end, you can't go get a guard. Yeah, you've got that big guy, but it's got to be the right guy … You don't go, 'Hey, we need a big guy.' No, we need good receivers. They come in all shapes and sizes."

-Kyle Shanahan

That's such a garbage statement.

Of course good receivers come in all shapes and sizes. In other words, there are good "big" receivers as well as good "small" receivers, that is the point!! Nobody asked Shanahan to just find us a big receiver disregard whether he is good or crap. What we wanted was a good "big" receiver and not some bag of bones!!

Unless he is saying all the other 31 teams are stupid and there is zero good big receiver in this draft which in itself will make him sound pretty darn stupid.

How's about this one?


"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

Originally posted by Ernst82:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

seems like the only knock on this guy was his build. With NFL weight room training, that can change over an offseason.

I cant wait to get this guy on the field. Will be our true returner since ted ginn and will be even better~

Can lineup outside and in the slot. Runs fantastic routes.

Whats not to love?

He was expected to go 20 picks later therefore he sucks and is awful value. According to some...

He was projected to be drafted 3rd to 4th round, that's potentially 80+ picks later. It's god awful value, even IF some other team had reached for him the 49ers definitely could've filled 2 holes at 59 and 74. Instead they reached for Kyles obvious draft crush, and then tried to pretend like the team still doesn't have significant needs.

A team that has Louis Murphy, Aaron Burbrige, Deondre Carter, Victor Boldin, Kendrick Bourne, and Aldrich Robinson on it, doesn't have a "significant need" at WR?

That team also has Garcon, Goodwin and Taylor. We needed a WR but leaving out our top 3 WR's doesn't make sense.

BTW I agree we needed a WR and like Pettis. The more I learn about him the better I feel about him. Maybe we could have waited and got him but it doesn't look likely. I wasn't excited about the pick when it was made but it's grown on me. A great returner makes a huge difference and this guy is arguably the best ever in college football. I can't wait to see him play!

I wasn't trying to leave them out, I was just saying there was plenty of roster spots that needed upgrades, and WR had a bunch of them.

The more I've researched this guy, the Moreno like him and the happier I am with the pick.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
How's about this one?

"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

I am sorry, it doesn't do anything for me.

What I do know is this, we haven't had a true No.1 stud WR since TO who incidentally was also a "big" receiver at 6'3" and 224 lbs. I am not the only person in this universe who wants that. That is what a lot of 9ers fans want!!

I am sick and tired of seeing wasted picks, be it from the last regime to this current regime.

What is it that is so great about Pettis? Just because the guy can return kicks? Why has the focus all of a sudden shifted to find a jack of all trades type WR?? We need a true No.1 WR who can be a match-up nightmare and score for us in the red zone. A weapon, a lethal one at that!!

I have waited very patiently for the organization to find that WR, but they just can't get their act together. It is both disappointing and frustrating or let's just face it is pretty much hopeless.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
How's about this one?

"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

I am sorry, it doesn't do anything for me.

What I do know is this, we haven't had a true No.1 stud WR since TO who incidentally was also a "big" receiver at 6'3" and 224 lbs. I am not the only person in this universe who wants that. That is what a lot of 9ers fans want!!

I am sick and tired of seeing wasted picks, be it from the last regime to this current regime.

What is it that is so great about Pettis? Just because the guy can return kicks? Why has the focus all of a sudden shifted to find a jack of all trades type WR?? We need a true No.1 WR who can be a match-up nightmare and score for us in the red zone. A weapon, a lethal one at that!!

I have waited very patiently for the organization to find that WR, but they just can't get their act together. It is both disappointing and frustrating or let's just face it is pretty much hopeless.

Who would you have picked in this draft? These receivers don't grow on trees. You don't take someone just because he's got the measurables.

Just because you're big and tall doesn't make you good.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

How's about this one?

"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

I am sorry, it doesn't do anything for me.

What I do know is this, we haven't had a true No.1 stud WR since TO who incidentally was also a "big" receiver at 6'3" and 224 lbs. I am not the only person in this universe who wants that. That is what a lot of 9ers fans want!!

I am sick and tired of seeing wasted picks, be it from the last regime to this current regime.

What is it that is so great about Pettis? Just because the guy can return kicks? Why has the focus all of a sudden shifted to find a jack of all trades type WR?? We need a true No.1 WR who can be a match-up nightmare and score for us in the red zone. A weapon, a lethal one at that!!

I have waited very patiently for the organization to find that WR, but they just can't get their act together. It is both disappointing and frustrating or let's just face it is pretty much hopeless.

You cant even admit that you have no idea what you're talking about. You all of a sudden the one guy in the world that can predict player success in the NFL?

This guy can run every route with precision. He can shake and lose guys with his routes. He can high point the ball. He attacks the ball instead of waiting for it to drop in his lap. He can take the top off a defense. He is willing to block for his teammates. He is also a great return man.

People just can't get over the FACT that they just don't know. I think that Pettis has all the skills to be a red zone threat. To be a #1 wr or at the least a bad ass #2. I could be wrong or you could be wrong. We dont know yet.

the guy has really good hands. a good route runner. and can is a returner. he has a big enough frame (just a little more muscle needed) to play all reciever positions. it might not seem like wr is need, but it is if one of our guys is injured which is highly likely for 2018 season.

for those of you wanting a no 1 wide reciever....most overrated thing in the game. u need a stable of good pass catchers with good qb play. the rams, seahawks, pats, eagles, Vikings, packers, have been successful with this and some of those teams have been doing it for a while


yes there are exceptions out there. like antonio brown and julio jones (no rings btw)
someone who commands the ball and a huge contract is not the best thing in the world. i rather have this guy who can play any receiver spot

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

How's about this one?

"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

I am sorry, it doesn't do anything for me.

What I do know is this, we haven't had a true No.1 stud WR since TO who incidentally was also a "big" receiver at 6'3" and 224 lbs. I am not the only person in this universe who wants that. That is what a lot of 9ers fans want!!

I am sick and tired of seeing wasted picks, be it from the last regime to this current regime.

What is it that is so great about Pettis? Just because the guy can return kicks? Why has the focus all of a sudden shifted to find a jack of all trades type WR?? We need a true No.1 WR who can be a match-up nightmare and score for us in the red zone. A weapon, a lethal one at that!!

I have waited very patiently for the organization to find that WR, but they just can't get their act together. It is both disappointing and frustrating or let's just face it is pretty much hopeless.

I don't know how I can be any clearer.

I want a 6-10, 280 lbs WR, who can run a 4.1 and has a 50 inch vertical, 40 inch arms, 12 inch hands, and never drops a ball, and has great awareness and football IQ, and is the perfect route runner, and who is a 4 year heisman trophy winner and 4 time national champ.

However, there were none of those available in this draft, so I'll settle for the one who was Kyle thought was the best available at 44.

Originally posted by ronin1387:
the guy has really good hands. a good route runner. and can is a returner. he has a big enough frame (just a little more muscle needed) to play all reciever positions. it might not seem like wr is need, but it is if one of our guys is injured which is highly likely for 2018 season.

for those of you wanting a no 1 wide reciever....most overrated thing in the game. u need a stable of good pass catchers with good qb play. the rams, seahawks, pats, eagles, Vikings, packers, have been successful with this and some of those teams have been doing it for a while

yes there are exceptions out there. like antonio brown and julio jones (no rings btw)
someone who commands the ball and a huge contract is not the best thing in the world. i rather have this guy who can play any receiver spot

The real irony is that only 4 of the top 30 recovers in the league statistically last year had ever won a super bowl in their careers... 2 are TEs Gronk and Ertz and the other two are Seattle guys in Tate and Baldwin on a team that won with defense and the run game.

Time and NFL rules have changed. The Pats largely survived and went to 2-3 SB without a 6'4, 200lbs -ish #1 receiver. You can win without one if the coaches have a handful of guys that can do the same combination.

Tall, big receivers trend started with the Niners I think 🤔 It's a bit passé now. You can give up a bit of height 6'0 and bit weight around 200 or under, but if the guy can be quick and fast, get open, he can be a nightmare on defenses.

I was in line of thinking of the former, up until Victor Cruz of the Giants 2011.