WR Dante "Do something...anything" Pettis

Originally posted by NYniner85:

What in the world does this draft have in common with 2012? Pettis is a much much more polished WR than AJ was.

Who the hell is LMJ in this draft? McGlinchey was the top rated OT (and it wasn't even close) ND OL prospects have turned into solid players for yrs in the NFL. I didn't like the pick at first BUT moving Brown was clearly in the plans and now we don't have to throw a bunch of money for a tackle that's not a scheme fit....who was that from the 2012 draft?

Did we trade for a top QB in 2012?

I'm sorry I don't see anything that resembles anything from that draft.

Didn't you want to extend Brown because he was such and elite tackle as you put It?

This was a terrible class for WR's, absolutely stunk.

This kid is legit. I don't know why people would question his speed. Just by the tape you can tell he is a high 4.3 low 4.4 40 guy. Throw in the outstanding route running, hands, and punt return ability, and you have a hall of a player.

His punt returns should flip field position for us a number of times and we all remember how big Ginn was for us and we all remember what happened when he wasn't available against the Giants.

Originally posted by AmpLee:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2018/4/11/17201184/dante-pettis-could-provide-good-depth-for-the-redskins-at-wr-but-he-can-shine-as-a-returner

Good read on Pettis, projected 4th round pick pre draft. Mentions Pettis struggling against top level competition, that's hes a finesse player that plays too passive and soft. If he gets jammed at the line of scrimmage he's basically finished.

"Pettis must develop a quicker step or learn how to fight off press coverage and gain separation otherwise I don't see him being very effective at the next level"

That directly contradicts what Kyle said he saw when he watched the tape. Who to trust?

Umm hogshaven.com of course. Duh.

Originally posted by AmpLee:

Originally posted by GMniner805:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2018/4/11/17201184/dante-pettis-could-provide-good-depth-for-the-redskins-at-wr-but-he-can-shine-as-a-returner

Good read on Pettis, projected 4th round pick pre draft. Mentions Pettis struggling against top level competition, that's hes a finesse player that plays too passive and soft. If he gets jammed at the line of scrimmage he's basically finished.

"Pettis must develop a quicker step or learn how to fight off press coverage and gain separation otherwise I don't see him being very effective at the next level"

That directly contradicts what Kyle said he saw when he watched the tape. Who to trust?

Yeah, Kyle said he was excellent at bump and run but I can't seem to find any film of him getting anything but a clean release at the LOS and plenty of space to work with (plus crappy DB play). Anyone have any other clips of him defeating physical press, bump and run, etc.? It would be moot if he's our slot, but outside, that's another story, esp. in our division.

NC, you must have missed this post

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, Kyle talked about him being great in bump and run but I couldn't find one single route where he was truly squared up and contested with coming off the LOS. In fact, he was "clean" on every route which plays into his best skill sets (quickness, ability to sell his routes, crisp routes, sneaky speed, etc.). So for now, it's just a concern. No doubt Sherman and Witherspoon will test the hell out of him at the LOS and that can only make him better going forward. We'll play against a ton of really good press CB's next year. But Kyle can move him off the LOS to give him more space to work with too. Great point about coming back for contested catches too. He'll have to learn how to box out more, timing, etc.

Assuage your concerns. Pettis beats press at the LOS with varied releases, quick feet, and hand fighting. Dude does it all.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Timed by who his coach? He hasn't run an official 40. That's why the scouts question his long speed.

Lol show me issues with speed on tape then? Kid ran track in HS and competed in California states in the 200 meter and long jump.

You don't become as decorated as a returner as he is by being slow.


Speed isn't a issue try again

Originally posted by Heroism:
NC, you must have missed this post

I totally missed it. That one is nice! Upper body shake-n-bake. He'll get schooled on hand work once he gets here and esp. going up against Sherman/Witherspoon. Thank you for that!

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Didn't you want to extend Brown because he was such and elite tackle as you put It?

I wanted to see him play for another yr and develop a tackle like O'Neil ESPECIALLY with who was on the board when we were drafting. They improved run blocking but not pass pro on the right side.

I said he was an elite pass blocking tackle which will be protecting the top qb in football next yr...don't words in my mouth k thanks.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Heroism:

NC, you must have missed this post

I totally missed it. That one is nice! Upper body shake-n-bake. He'll get schooled on hand work once he gets here and esp. going up against Sherman/Witherspoon. Thank you for that!

Where I am with Pettis is that I will give Shanahan the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his offense. He knows better than anyone else what his offense needs so until he gives reason not to, I'll trust that he knows what he is doing.


In terms of the scheme, Pettis gives you a lot of what you need, quickness, route running, great hands developed from a baseball background as well as tremendous intangibles, family professional sports tradition(dad was a baseball star, brother played for the Rams), high intelligence(highest Wonderlic score amongst WRs) and outstanding character.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
How's about this one?

"You take the best possible scenario. Everybody wants, I always joke around about it, but as a receiver I hope to find six [Atlanta Falcons WR] Julio Joneses who can give you everything. That's not going to happen. You've got to find what the best options are. There's lots of ways to do it, but you have to find out what characteristics makes someone successful and when you do feel that they have certain characteristics, then you've got to think of, 'Alright, how can I put a scheme together that allows him to use those traits?' And, does he have the players around him to allow him to use those traits? That's how you start to package things together. You don't just get to build your player like you want on Madden how it goes. You've got to see what's out there. Everyone has different things and you rarely get the full package. If you find a guy who has the full package, then you do whatever it takes to get that guy and you don't think twice about it. But, that's easier said than done. There's not many of those people on the planet."

- Kyle Shanahan

I am sorry, it doesn't do anything for me.

What I do know is this, we haven't had a true No.1 stud WR since TO who incidentally was also a "big" receiver at 6'3" and 224 lbs. I am not the only person in this universe who wants that. That is what a lot of 9ers fans want!!

I am sick and tired of seeing wasted picks, be it from the last regime to this current regime.

What is it that is so great about Pettis? Just because the guy can return kicks? Why has the focus all of a sudden shifted to find a jack of all trades type WR?? We need a true No.1 WR who can be a match-up nightmare and score for us in the red zone. A weapon, a lethal one at that!!

I have waited very patiently for the organization to find that WR, but they just can't get their act together. It is both disappointing and frustrating or let's just face it is pretty much hopeless.

The idea that a #1 WR has to be big is pretty silly when the best WR in the league is 5'10", 181-pound Antonio Brown.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Timed by who his coach? He hasn't run an official 40. That's why the scouts question his long speed.

Lol show me issues with speed on tape then? Kid ran track in HS and competed in California states in the 200 meter and long jump.

You don't become as decorated as a returner as he is by being slow.

.@49ers #DantePettis has the one ingredient Kyle Shanahan covers most: SPEED. #BaldyBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/87uXjQqj7c

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) April 28, 2018

Speed isn't a issue try again

Scouts words not mine, Baldinger makes himself look stupid "great production" 6 of 7 tds came against Fresno st/Oregon st. Theres definitely a legit concern with production against quality opponents.