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May 3, 2018 at 1:43 PM
- NCommand
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See you in 2019!
May 3, 2018 at 2:36 PM
- gold49digger
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he's even gonna wear number 95.. lol.
May 3, 2018 at 3:07 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Again, the only reason I hated this pick was because I'm so wary of drafting redshirt ACL players, not because of talent. If he can return to his old form after recovering, the pick has great potential, long-term. Without the injury, this is a rock solid pick. So I'm trying to see it through that lens as much as I can.
Same here, I agree. He is a freak. If indeed he can return to form 100%, (like Gore did with his injury) he's a great pick, but I'm PSTD'd regarding ACL's and Achillies right now. Any pick with either of those, makes me have nightmares of Marcus Lattimore.
May 3, 2018 at 3:09 PM
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
he's even gonna wear number 95.. lol.
From one ACL to another.
May 3, 2018 at 3:32 PM
- LottDMontanaO
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Originally posted by NCommand:
See you in 2019!
I can see this guy being a beast in 2019 and making much more of an impact that the previous #95, Tank.
May 4, 2018 at 2:07 AM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by gold49digger:he's even gonna wear number 95.. lol.
From one ACL to another.
Hey tank became a solid big end. We just have other personnel that allowed us to move on. I wish tank the best honestly, especially after the roller coaster he went through. Ray McDonald was also drafted off of a torn ACL and he worked out pretty well besides later going full potato.
3rd times a charm! This dude has beast genetics, gonna make us happy in the future.
May 4, 2018 at 2:35 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Again, the only reason I hated this pick was because I'm so wary of drafting redshirt ACL players, not because of talent. If he can return to his old form after recovering, the pick has great potential, long-term. Without the injury, this is a rock solid pick. So I'm trying to see it through that lens as much as I can.
The reason this was a BAD pick is because he would have been there in the 5th !
Should have taken Sweat in the 4th and Street in the 5th
They don't seem to understand draft value ... instead they fall in love with their guys ahead of the draft and decide before the draft that "we want Pettis in the 2nd, and Street in the 4th" ... just like Baalke deciding he wanted AJ Jenkins at #30 the week before the draft. The right way to draft is to rank your players and see who falls to you. They should have waited in Street until the 5th since it's 95% chance he would still have been there
May 4, 2018 at 2:39 AM
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by NCommand:
See you in 2019!
I can see this guy being a beast in 2019 and making much more of an impact that the previous #95, Tank.
Good luck, the guy wasn't even a beast in college !
Who know's anything is possible, but he for sure would have been there in the 5th rd. Should have taken Josh Sweat in 4th and waited for Street in the 5th
May 5, 2018 at 9:12 AM
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If he doesn't become the next Lawrence Taylor or the likes...enough with the ACL picks
#NoOneGAF
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May 5, 2018 at 9:14 AM
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
he's even gonna wear number 95.. lol.
From one ACL to another.
Hey tank became a solid big end. We just have other personnel that allowed us to move on. I wish tank the best honestly, especially after the roller coaster he went through. Ray McDonald was also drafted off of a torn ACL and he worked out pretty well besides later going full potato.
3rd times a charm! This dude has beast genetics, gonna make us happy in the future.
lol its just funny we're all comparing street to tank and then he got the same number as him.
May 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM
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Originally posted by MK_Ultra:The reason this was a BAD pick is because he would have been there in the 5th !
Should have taken Sweat in the 4th and Street in the 5th
They don't seem to understand draft value ... instead they fall in love with their guys ahead of the draft and decide before the draft that "we want Pettis in the 2nd, and Street in the 4th" ... just like Baalke deciding he wanted AJ Jenkins at #30 the week before the draft. The right way to draft is to rank your players and see who falls to you. They should have waited in Street until the 5th since it's 95% chance he would still have been there
So you understand draft value and where players will be picked better than the professionals?
May 5, 2018 at 10:54 AM
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We could have gotten Street as an UDFA if we just waited. Waste of a draft pick, IMO.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 5, 2018 at 10:26 PM ]
May 5, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by MK_Ultra:The reason this was a BAD pick is because he would have been there in the 5th !
Should have taken Sweat in the 4th and Street in the 5th
They don't seem to understand draft value ... instead they fall in love with their guys ahead of the draft and decide before the draft that "we want Pettis in the 2nd, and Street in the 4th" ... just like Baalke deciding he wanted AJ Jenkins at #30 the week before the draft. The right way to draft is to rank your players and see who falls to you. They should have waited in Street until the 5th since it's 95% chance he would still have been there
Value is subjective. Each team structures their board to fit their overall needs and philosophy. The team's focus is to get the best player possible for their team. If they wind up with a bunch guys who ball out for them, who GAF about value?
Baalke had some great value drafts that didn't pan out. 5 years from now what matters most is who could ball and who couldn't.
May 5, 2018 at 11:16 AM
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Beastly!!!!
[ Edited by JimmyOwnz on May 5, 2018 at 11:17 AM ]
May 5, 2018 at 1:12 PM
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by MK_Ultra:
The reason this was a BAD pick is because he would have been there in the 5th !
Should have taken Sweat in the 4th and Street in the 5th
They don't seem to understand draft value ... instead they fall in love with their guys ahead of the draft and decide before the draft that "we want Pettis in the 2nd, and Street in the 4th" ... just like Baalke deciding he wanted AJ Jenkins at #30 the week before the draft. The right way to draft is to rank your players and see who falls to you. They should have waited in Street until the 5th since it's 95% chance he would still have been there
So you understand draft value and where players will be picked better than the professionals?
Yes. Exactly. It seems that they don't understand 'value' very well.
Instead they fall in love with their favorites and MUST 'reach' for them regardless of value.
For example last year:
Solomon: "Must have" at #3 overall (so far not good = a reach)
Reuben Foster: Would have reached! ShanaLynch both said they would have taken Foster at #3 overall if Solomon wasn't there = clearly bad value would have reached at #3 overall
CJ Beathard: REACH Shanahan fell in love and traded up into rd 3 = clearly a reach projected to go rd 6
Joe Williams: REACH "must have" so traded up for what so far is a bust and likely didn't need to trade up
... then after they have reached for their favorites in the early rounds they do better getting good value in the later rounds because they are good talent scouts
2018:
Rd 2 Pettis: Reach
Rd 4 Street: Reach
Rd 6 Harris: Reach
I like all of these players, just these 3 were picked a round sooner than they had to. It's a minor issue but in the long run it's better to get good value. I think they are great talent evaluators so that is most important and I think they will be greatly improved because they do get good players; they just overpay for them. Baalke OTOH traded around for value but didn't get good players! I like the players they picked, it's just they REACH for some of them sooner than they had to.