Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by Furlow:
How are other team(s) considering reaching for a player a justification for the Niners reaching for a player? And in this situation, those other teams ended up NOT reaching anyway. Hell the guy's own college line coach couldn't convince NO to take him.
The homerism is strong on this forum.
So, if someone thinks he is a better prospect than you do, that makes them a homer?
No. But the same posters defending EVERY draft pick like they're going to be great, and attacking anyone with a different opinion, is homerism.
Attacking the posters or attacking the posts?
And again, what makes it a reach?
I'm trying to not attack the posters, but calling it "homerism." Not calling anyone a "homer" which would mean they're unable to be objective, ever. At this point I can't help but find it comedic that people are able to come on this forum and be over the top negative or positive, without repercussion. But if someone calls them out for it, mods come jumping in to save the day. This entire forum is getting weird, I'm going to try my best to just avoid certain threads. The ignore feature is a joke, because you can still see the person's name and frequency of posts.
And I'm firmly on record that we needed an edge rusher and didn't get one, instead wasting picks on positions where we have far too many players (CB), and ignoring positions of need (edge, LB). Guys who won't even play in 2018 should be signed as UDFA (if that), not drafted in the 4th round. There are quality starters available every year in round 4, and this teams needs more than a few. It's a waste of a pick, and it's what we all hated Baalke for. But nothing I say is going to prove that it was a reach, regardless of how many experts I cite saying that Street was a 6-7th round guy or UDFA. The response will be "NFL GM's are professionals and know more than everyone."
Again, I'll try to do a better job of avoiding saying anything remotely negative about a Niner player, so as not to trigger anyone.
Sorry was not saying you were attacking anyone, was referring to your comment that some posters were attacking those with differing opinions. Over the top opinions are not necessarily against the rules unless perceived to be merely to gain a rise or reaction out of others.
Most of us concluded we had other needs that required filling, but the team maybe did not wish to reach for need and or pass on better value for need. Without knowing what our board looks like, hard to say if any players even filled a need at this spot without reaching. Either way, this team seems to be taking a more methodical approach to rebuilding the roster as opposed to trying to draft guys just to put new bodies in positions of need. One does not have to agree or like this philosophical approach to rebuilding, but it does not make it the wrong one. It is one however that requires patience.
Whether Street develops or not will determine whether it was a wasted pick or not, nothing less nothing more.
This was a late 4th round pick. Finding a quality starter at that point in the draft is not common. The team felt Street was worth taking there, obviously felt good about his medical and had a 3rd round grade on the kid.
The term reach is ridiculous IMO. You have to stay true to your own board and your own evaluations. You cannot base decisions on what the experts believe because they are not building their boards towards your scheme and to fit your vision and values. Lynch and Shanny stayed true to their philosophies, right or wrong. Both experts and GM's will be wrong more often than they are right when you look at success rates, so staying true to your own beliefs is important, and if and when you make mistakes it is how you learn from them and move forward that matters most.
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. They want players who are going to be on the field, which is not a given. If people recall, Williams was picked, but got into Kyle's doghouse. The same could happen to any of the picks. Even if they picked Obo or Sweat, there is no definite proof they would play, if they suck then as Lynch said someone has got to go.