Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by cciowa:
you show me exactly where i said we missed on an AMAZING prospect,., all i have said. is i think we could have got someone to help us on some areas we need help in or someone that could have contributed in some way this year.. i never said we missed out on a pro bowler.. its just some people like to put those words in others mouths when they dare disagree with a lynch move
We also could have drafted a guy who is healthy but would not contribute this year. A guy who would not beat out those ahead of them on the depth chart or make the 46 man active roster. And then the same folks complaining about Street right now would be complaining about the 1-2 or maybe 3 guys taken in the final 125+ picks who did contribute in a meaningful way for the teams that took them.
i just find it hard to believe what a few have said, that this is the best pick we could have made at the time. the best pick of all the healthy guys on the board at the time? yes i know. you do not even have to say it.. trust the coach and gm. they know best. i was hoping we would sign the dt guy the falcons got or maybe at least bring in another body like we did with the offensive line. a guy who has a nfl resume who can compete along the line. i am not thrilled overall by the current crew there. i said overall by the way
This was the very tail end of round 4. We had a 3rd round grade on the kid, so from a value standpoint with regards to OUR draft board yes it is probably the best pick we could have made. Chances are so very low that we are finding an All Pro type player from the "healthy" guys available at 128 and chances are had we picked a kid who could compete from day 1, he would not have made a difference in the win loss column.
What exactly would you say if we took a healthy kid at 128 and he failed to be a part of the active 46 this season ? Would it be accurate to say "well at least we tried" ?
That's a good point. The team probably looked at it this way:
CHOICE A: We take a guy who we see as very talented, even though we know won't play this year.
CHOICE B: We take a guy who we see as much less talented, even though we think he'll likely be inactive and/or barely play this year.
As Shanahan said, they didn't feel anyone else on their board had a chance to beat out who we already had. To them, if they were barely going to play, or not play at all, then what's left to base your decision on? The answer is obvious: TALENT. Street, when healthy, is a ferocious, athletic freak who has massive upside in terms of raw ability. He offered more long-term value than any of the other players did for Shanalynch, so when you think about it that way, it makes more sense why the did what they did.
Keep in mind this was a late 4th round pick, not a pick in the 2nd round, or even worse a reach like Baalke made with a 7th round talent when healthy in Smelter, going in the late 4th (WTF Trent, c'mon man). So, it wasn't some "way out there" massive reach or something. I don't like taking guys with torn ACLs, but I can't sit here and deny that Street has good tape when healthy. Better than Josh Sweat by a lot in my opinion. The only player I would've taken ahead of Street was Ogbonnia Okoronwo. So that is the extent of my disagreement with the pick. I liked Obo more as a DE or even a project at SAM, but time will tell if we made the right call here.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on May 14, 2018 at 9:56 AM ]
I'm sure there will be players in the draft next year that can play the Big End position also that are 1. younger 2. don't have that injury 3. don't have to have another year of recovery to play through.