Kentavius Street-DE-NC State

In spite of what some others in here might think I actually don't have an opinion on this pick at all. If Street returns healthy in 2019 and is able to get on the field and I can see him play then I'll have an opinion on him. I don't follow college football so every player we drafted is more or less the same to me as every player any other team drafted, complete unknowns who may or may not work out for the team that picked them. I don't assign a higher value to one pick over any other so what round they are taken in also is meaningless to me. The highlights on Street and the analysis of his game by people who claim to know makes him look like an intriguing prospect. I guess we'll find out in a couple of years whether or not he was worth the gamble.

What I do know is that Taylor in the 4th or 5th, and Kittle in the 5th, and Colbert in the 7th, and Brieda, Boldin, Bourne, and Magnuson as UDFA's all ended up contributing meaningful snaps on the team last year. And, except for Boldin probably, they all have a chance to contribute this year in an even more meaningful way. The highlights and analysis of this year's picks also looks very interesting. The success of last year's draft has earned the FO of the benefit of the doubt for the moment. If none of this years picks end up being successful then yeah, people can certainly start throwing shade at their draft evaluations. But until these guys get on the field and show what they can do all of this handwringing and bed wetting is a bit pointless.

Couple clips vs ND

Originally posted by mayo49:

Still, have you seen the size of his legs? They're massive - he's bound to have knee problems in the future.

Still can't believe they wasted a pick on a acl dude. Smdh this front office doing baalke things.

Let's hope he can be our next KEVIN f*gAN... but really, we could have waited until the 6th or even 7th to land the guy... it would not have been such a loss anyway if we didn't land him..

too lazy to do a search, but was there any other DE/EDGE that was available??

Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's hope he can be our next KEVIN f*gAN... but really, we could have waited until the 6th or even 7th to land the guy... it would not have been such a loss anyway if we didn't land him..

too lazy to do a search, but was there any other DE/EDGE that was available??

No way would Street have been available in the 6th or 7th round. It was pick him with that late 4th round pick or risk losing him. Someone already stated that the Falcons were trying to package picks together to get into the 5th round to pick him. I'm keeping the faith with this front office because they've shown early on that they have an eye for talent.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Still, have you seen the size of his legs? They're massive - he's bound to have knee problems in the future.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Let's hope he can be our next KEVIN f*gAN... but really, we could have waited until the 6th or even 7th to land the guy... it would not have been such a loss anyway if we didn't land him..

too lazy to do a search, but was there any other DE/EDGE that was available??

Peter king actually said there was two teams interested in him In the 4th (ATL/NO) so no we couldn't have waited until the end of the draft like you're saying

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/5/12/17347316/kentavius-street-49ers-saints-falcons-interest

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Still, have you seen the size of his legs? They're massive - he's bound to have knee problems in the future.

Having strong legs doesn't mean he'll have knee problems. Typically someone that strong in the lower body would have better stability, but with ACLs, often it's just a freak accident type of thing. As long as it's properly treated and he rehabs with the appropriate neuromuscular training to prevent re-injury, he should be okay. If you look at Carradine, he recovered from the ACL, downside is he just wasn't a very good player. Never should have taken him, he wasn't a fit. Street is certainly a fit. We'll see if he recovers and turns out to be a good NFL player.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Still, have you seen the size of his legs? They're massive - he's bound to have knee problems in the future.

Having strong legs doesn't mean he'll have knee problems. Typically someone that strong in the lower body would have better stability, but with ACLs, often it's just a freak accident type of thing. As long as it's properly treated and he rehabs with the appropriate neuromuscular training to prevent re-injury, he should be okay. If you look at Carradine, he recovered from the ACL, downside is he just wasn't a very good player. Never should have taken him, he wasn't a fit. Street is certainly a fit. We'll see if he recovers and turns out to be a good NFL player.

Yeah, I might have been exaggerating a bit, but I get what your saying. We'll see if he recovers to make an impact on the team.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Let's hope he can be our next KEVIN f*gAN... but really, we could have waited until the 6th or even 7th to land the guy... it would not have been such a loss anyway if we didn't land him..

too lazy to do a search, but was there any other DE/EDGE that was available??

Peter king actually said there was two teams interested in him In the 4th (ATL/NO) so no we couldn't have waited until the end of the draft like you're saying

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/5/12/17347316/kentavius-street-49ers-saints-falcons-interest

Two stacked rosters who could afford to stash an ACL. j/k

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Good point about day 3 picks. I remember Michael Carter, a 5th round pick, and he was in track and field. He was a shot putter. One of the most dominant NT's the 49ers has ever had. I'd have gone with a track and field star that had a football background (similar to the profile of a Michael Carter) as one option instead of an ACL/Achillies pick. Mike Golic was another DT/NT that was a collegate wrestler and played football. If you are talking day three picks, these are guys that I'd have considered before drafting a ACL/Achillies player.

So I guess you wouldn't have taken gore in the 3rd? I think it depends on how many picks you have, who's available, what kind of draft it is, the type of player you're getting etc...not just he's got a torn ACL throw him in the trash.

Streets is without question a player and if he comes back healthy could carve out a nice role imo.

Just looking back on the 2005 draft, there was Marion Barber and Darren Sproles - available at that pick. From an offensive standpoint, I think Kyle is good enough to take a Marion Barber or Darren Sproles and make them producitve in his offense vs taking a risk like Frank Gore. (as wonderful a pick as he was) Defensively, there are a lot of prototypical Big Ends and DT/NT's out there in the later rounds that can fit the bill where Kentavius would be placed if 100% healthy after healing up. I think Saleh will be a good enough coach not to have to take risks like Kentavius. Good coaches like Kyle can take journeymen players (RB's and O LInemen - for example) and make them play above their draft grades. If Saleh can't do the same thing on defense, then we just got to get another D Coordinator in my opinion.

Barber was taken 44 picks after Gore and Sproles was taken 65 picks later. So you are telling me that you would rather reach for a healthy player than swing for the fences on an injured one? Plus, you left out some other RBs that were drafted before Barber and Sproles? Why did you leave them out? Again just drafting a player doesn't solve a roster need, drafting the right player does.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Ok, who would play this year and why? Let's drop the hypotheticals, and tell me who is cracking the lineup and who are they beating out, and are they active on game day, and who isn't just because we drafted them at 128?

Dalton Schultz TE
Josh Sweat DE Edge

This...dozens of different directions we could have gone.

i am stunned by so many people who actually think this is the best pick we could have done at the time.. i do not know the names but come on people. there were still some good fb players around with that pick in the area of linebacker. secondary.tight end running back. wherever that could have helped us.. i swear lynch says this is the best we can do and people just drink it up

It so funny that you can't name anybody but are so adamant that there were so many players we missed out on. Guess what there were also a bunch of players that were drafted that will be very bad players and some will never play a down in the nfl, others won't make it past their rookie contracts, and others will bounce from team to team trying to keep the dream alive. If the coaches, whom have access to way more information than we do, think he was the best pick for our team, I don't understand why our default should be to disagree with them.

Originally posted by cciowa:

you show me exactly where i said we missed on an AMAZING prospect,., all i have said. is i think we could have got someone to help us on some areas we need help in or someone that could have contributed in some way this year.. i never said we missed out on a pro bowler.. its just some people like to put those words in others mouths when they dare disagree with a lynch move

I'd rather have a starter for 3 years than a contributor for 4. We have so much cap space that we can sign a veteran for depth. If the coaches believe we can get a starter and eventual replacement for Armstead, then I am fine with them wagering the 128th pick.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I agree, it's basically a wash if you trade out of the 4th for next years draft pick vs taking Street. But the advantage of trading out and getting a future pick is the guy you pick next year is younger and healthier, and probably can play much sooner at 100% than Street. Also, you have the flexibility to move that draft pick to another position if for some reason another position needs additional draft capital (say for example Sherman doesn't pan out) we can use that 4rth pick in 2019 for a DB vs. a DT. What we have now is that we are locked into a guy that basically plays Big End, and they aren't that hard to find vs an edge rusher and the future flexibility of a 2019 draft pick.

Only not every team wants to trade a future pick for a late 4th rd pick...not sure what kind of flexibility you're getting with low mid rd picks, especially if your goal is to find some stud edge rusher. Street can rush the passer as well.

Again it was the 128th pick in the draft NOT a top 64 pick or even top 100 pick...day 3. Seattle just spent the 79th pick on Rasheem Green who's gonna play big end for them, dude imo isn't as good as Street and has health issues as well.

You can package extra picks for trades now and in the future. That's another advantage of having draft picks instead of injured players. Injured players are not as tradable as draft picks. I'm not competent enough to judge whether or not Street is going to be better or worse than a particular player when he's healthy, but I do know, he isn't playing this year and he most likely will not play 100% into a good portion of next year. How he heals and when he heals is not in ShanaLynch's hands. However, if they had that extra draft pick because of a trade out of the 4rth - that draft pick would be fully in ShanaLynch's control and tradable now and in the future. No need to wait on medical doctors or gods grace for that to happen.