WR Richie James

Originally posted by Heroism:
Crazy legs might be your best one yet, moon. This one fits.

THANK YOU THANK YOU..

But I got a bunch of PMs when I gave former 49er TE (Vance McDonald) the nickname....

JAWS !!!!

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Actually I was wrong they lead the league in it....and it was the Patriots that ran it the 2nd most.

It's pretty easy what I'm trying to "ague" Kyle's scheme doesn't use 11 personnel remotely close to what the rest of the league does. 3 WR sets aren't going to be used as much and THAT needs to be accounted for when we're talking about the bottom of the roster. We will not be keeping 7 WRs (unless they really don't see Taylor playing until after the bye).

He's ALWAYS used 21 personnel and it is a big part of his scheme. It was NOT out of need last yr...I don't know what else to tell ya. There's a reason why they paid Juice 3x more than the next FB, there's a reason he brought in Coleman who's said himself he's never played out as a WR as much as he has this off season. There's a reason they paid Jet as much as they did as well.

Kyle is the HC now, he makes the play-calls, has final day on the roster, and is building this team how he wants. So YEAH he's clearly built it to fit his ideal offensive scheme.

I think it obvious to everyone that those numbers are drastically skewed based off of last year's WR corps, or lack there of. If you can't get that then there isn t much more to discuss on the subject.

Dont kid yourself, Kyle wants to pass the ball and be an explosive offense. We are talking about a guy who threw the ball on 3rd down with the Super bowl on the line when a FG likely wins the game.

The FB and running game has always been a big part of the Shannahan/WCO offense. But its all to open up the passing game.

And we will likely carry 7 after the cuts because TT definitely won't be ready for week one.

I never said he doesn't want explosive plays. Pretty sure we saw Kittle do it plenty last yr. The 21 personnel allows him to really use play-action to the fullest and defenses have to respect the run with that grouping.

That allows someone like Goodwin with 4.2 speed to blast downfield.

What IS a fact is that Shanny's offenses have been bottom of the league in 11 personnel. It's not a one yr thing not sure what else to tell ya. He had a top end WR corp in ATL and was still bottom of the league in 11 personnel and tops in 21 personnel.

I do agree if Taylor is that banged up there's a chance we waste a roster spot on a 7th WR for a couple weeks.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:
Does everyone in here not understand that the numbers are largely inflated because our number 1 WR was Kendrick Bourne who isn't even going to make the team one year later? Y'all be smoking that fire up in here huh?

Our #1 WR when the season began was not Bourne, and we were using 21 heavy. Heck we did it all last TC too, and in 2017 both thru the off-season and regular season. And it was used in Atlanta as well, only the numbers increased here because Juice is a more versatile weapon that allows more innovation and creativity for Kyle.

And we will do it again this year.

I highly suggest you do some research on Kyle's offensive strategy, scheme and personnel use.

SF was 3rd overall on yards per play on 1st down, which is a great indication of a good offense.



a lot of that is to do with his scheming.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
LAST year is last year, and YES we need to realize the fact that James had a very very good pre-season..

but the point here is that.... he had better showing than BOURNE - MATTHEWS - GOODWIN and even PETTIS..

I'm sure both rookies (Hurd & Deevah) will make the team, as well as Pettis but that's only because of the fact that we drafted him early last year...

as for other WRs we have, how can ANYONE w/the right stage of mind believe that the rest deserve a spot over James.

Isn't this the point of going thru OTA's - TC - Pre Season??

to see if you deserve to be w/the team???

I'm all for James making the team...also gotta look at snap counts in preseason. James probably had more than any WR, opportunity was there for him to put up numbers (and he did).

IMO he should make it over Matthews/Bourne for his return skills alone.

HAD a great feeling on this one that we will be on ON THE SAME PAGE!!!

HA every once in a while it happens

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Originally posted by evil:
So you have nothing...not that it is surprising.

Nothing stopped us from investing more thru 3 offseasons in more receivers, both in the draft and FA. Instead we have stockpiled running backs and and went after two RBs who can run routes like receivers, landed Juice (when he could have had DiMarco for cheaper and who was already familiar with the Offense). And have installed and ran a scheme that is rooted deep in 21 personnel.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Dont kid yourself, you have yet to see what a shannahan offense is. None of us have yet. The pieces are slowly coming together. He is finally in charge of the roster and that takes time to build.

No I'm pretty sure we saw his offense in 2016 when Ryan was the MVP, they went to the SB, and were avg almost 34 pts per game....they still were bottom of the league in 11 personnel.

is what it is dude.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

No I'm pretty sure we saw his offense in 2016 when Ryan was the MVP, they went to the SB, and were avg almost 34 pts per game....they still were bottom of the league in 11 personnel.

is what it is dude.

So this year we will run 47% of our plays in that grouping again this year? I don't think so. I bet it's under 30 as long as we stay healthy.

Richieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

excited for this dude this season!!!

Good for him

Really glad he made it.

He might be one of the few playmakers this team has. I'm a fan.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Did we run that out of design or need? It was definitely need because everyone was hurt last year. It's the reason Bourne was our leading WR which isn't good.

Nope not true.

The yr ATL went to the SB they were 2nd in the league in 21 personnel usage and bottom of the league in 11 personnel.

Kyle has also stated he will always have a FB on the the team and will use him.

It's his offense man and it's not gonna change. 7 WRs on the final roster is silly.

I don't think we last all season with 7 WRs.

Proud of you kid.

Let's celebrate the guys who really truly earned a spot.

Let's give out an Anti-Jimmie AWard. Mine goes to:

Really happy he made it. I think he has a bright future as a 49er

Originally posted by StubbyNBY:

Really happy he made it. I think he has a bright future as a 49er

Yeah well. He looked good in the preseason games this year but he was not playing well for last year. So I think, Bourne is probably same to James when they will be limit to catch the balls over 350 to 550 yards. .. But.. wait n see until the end.