Eric Reid thread

Kap's protest went unnoticed the 1st 2 weeks because he wasn't in uniform and the media didn't catch it. Then someone caught it with a photo and it became the story. Of course people only care because it's being talked about. If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a sound? What are you expecting there?

I do agree with krizay about the media stirring the pot on this but in a 24/7 news cycle stirring up sh is what they do.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by HomerJ:
Who is talking about reaching the masses? Is reaching the masses for Kap and Reid the 49ers or the NFLs responsibility? There are MANY forms of protest that don't require hijacking your employers platform to push something on their customers.

Has Kaps protest stopped since he became unemployed? He is staying somewhat relevant with his push to educate minors and those he thinks are victims, his monthly donations totaling $1m (or whatever the number was), meeting with police groups, working with political groups in communities, buy radio/TV time to deliver his message, etc.

I have no idea why you think its ok for him to put on his employers uniform, on company time, in front of his employers paying customers and think that is a realistic platform for him to to push an unorganized and sloppy protest.

I will never understand the lengths some of you go to to defend Kap and Reid and excuse them of any accountability for the position they find themselves in.

Why don't you hold Kap and Reid to a standard that everyone else is held to with regards to being employed?

While i agree the protest should have stopped once it got the recognition of other sports/celebrities and they help carry the torch. I also love how the people who get offended by the protest and speak about it eh way that you are.

1. He did it for what 3 weeks before anyone even noticing he was sitting? So how bad was it hurting you or our country if it took you that long to figure it out?

2. He didn't hold a press conference specifically to speak about the protest. He sat in front of the media that his employers mandate he sits in front of, thus giving him a platform to talk about it.

3. He was only answering questions the media asked him. Again, in front of the media that his employers mandate he sits in front of.

4. These same networks that are said to be affected by the protests are the same dumbas*es that kept showing people protesting during the national anthem.

5. If the broadcaster never brought up Kaep kneeling then they never talked about which players were kneeling we wouldn't be in this position.

But the media brought it to everyone's attention. Then the media told everyone how they should feel. Then they kept showing and telling showing and telling til we got where we are right now.

People hate the Yanks/Patriots/Notre Dame/Duke because they're ALWAYS on tv and the media are ALWAYS talking about them.
People hate tom Brady and LeBron because they're ALWAYS on tv and the media are ALWAYS talking about them.
People hated Tim Tebow and Johnny Football because they were ALWAYS on tv and the media ALWAYS talked about them.

Too much of anything is bad. No different in sports. This protest thing got WAAAAAAAYYYYYY too much attention and this was the inevitable result.

The bolded didn't bother me for the most part.. If the media is going to ask him questions, I would expect him to talk about it. I was a little annoyed however that it took the conversation away from talking about the actual game they just played.

I do agree that the medias coverage of it didn't help things. I think that was a big reason it pissed so many people off who just wanted to watch a football game.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Kap's protest went unnoticed the 1st 2 weeks because he wasn't in uniform and the media didn't catch it. Then someone caught it with a photo and it became the story. Of course people only care because it's being talked about. If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a sound? What are you expecting there?

I do agree with krizay about the media stirring the pot on this but in a 24/7 news cycle stirring up sh is what they do.

It doesn't even seem like Kap meant to protest initially.

Initially he seemed like he just didn't believe in honoring the anthem due to racial injustice, and it was a personal stance

We back to football talk yet or?

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

We back to football talk yet or?

There are 1000's of threads for football talk, what's happening to Reid & Kap has nothing to do with football, this thread is relevant.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

It doesn't even seem like Kap meant to protest initially.

Initially he seemed like he just didn't believe in honoring the anthem due to racial injustice, and it was a personal stance

Protesting the anthem and the backlash that follows isn't new. There's a reason no NBA players are kneeling. He'd literally have to have been living under a rock to not know that would be headline news the second the media caught on.

But yeah I do think it's a personal stance as well.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

We back to football talk yet or?

For Reid and Kap that's unlikely to ever be the case hence the discussion we're having with them.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

It doesn't even seem like Kap meant to protest initially.

Initially he seemed like he just didn't believe in honoring the anthem due to racial injustice, and it was a personal stance

Protesting the anthem and the backlash that follows isn't new. There's a reason no NBA players are kneeling. He'd literally have to have been living under a rock to not know that would be headline news the second the media caught on.

But yeah I do think it's a personal stance as well.

It was a personal stance, that was then thrust into the limelight, Kap then discussed it with Reid and they decided to fight for the issue and raise awareness, and chose a method of doing so that they knew would shock people.

They risked their careers, and are now fighting that, I think it's another method of highlighting social injustices, using their situation as an example.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
We back to football talk yet or?

For Reid and Kap that's unlikely to ever be the case hence the discussion we're having with them.

I hope Kap & Reid win the collusion case against the NFL, and I hope they each get $500 million in settlement money.

It would be so cool to see two guys defeat a Goliath.

But we all know that will never happen because the system is rigged from the start.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
We back to football talk yet or?

For Reid and Kap that's unlikely to ever be the case hence the discussion we're having with them.

I hope Kap & Reid win the collusion case against the NFL, and I hope they each get $500 million in settlement money.

It would be so cool to see two guys defeat a Goliath.

But we all know that will never happen because the system is rigged from the start.

if they win..then every player that sucks can sue for collusion.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

if they win..then every player that sucks can sue for collusion.

Do you honestly believe that if they hadn't have protested that they would be out of the league at this point?

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if they win..then every player that sucks can sue for collusion.

Do you honestly believe that if they hadn't have protested that they would be out of the league at this point?

i'm talking about everyone else after them if they win.

There are players that protested also and still playing in the league

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

if they win..then every player that sucks can sue for collusion.

Do you honestly believe that if they hadn't have protested that they would be out of the league at this point?

I'm Kap's case I think it's possible he may have been playing by now . But don't forget that back when Kelly came in Kap turned down a chance to play for the Broncos because it involved a salary reduction. His star had fallen around the league long before his protest. If he thought he was worth more than teams were willing to pay, he may or may not have caught on to a team. If he was willing to take a reduced role at some point to get a job he may have done well, he may not have. I doubt we get a chance to find out at this point.

In Reid's case I absolutely believe he would have been on a team by the start of the year if he had not joined the collusion case.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

if they win..then every player that sucks can sue for collusion.

Do you honestly believe that if they hadn't have protested that they would be out of the league at this point?

i'm talking about everyone else after them if they win.

There are players that protested also and still playing in the league

That's absolutely ridiculous then, so you think if a player gets cut they could file a grievance for collusion?

There are players who protested still playing, but most of those either didn't start the movement, or cane to an agreement with the league to stop after the donation.

Reid decided that wasn't good enough and continued the fight.

Originally posted by mojave45:

I'm Kap's case I think it's possible he may have been playing by now . But don't forget that back when Kelly came in Kap turned down a chance to play for the Broncos because it involved a salary reduction. His star had fallen around the league long before his protest. If he thought he was worth more than teams were willing to pay, he may or may not have caught on to a team. If he was willing to take a reduced role at some point to get a job he may have done well, he may not have. I doubt we get a chance to find out at this point.

In Reid's case I absolutely believe he would have been on a team by the start of the year if he had not joined the collusion case.

So Kap should have taken a $5-10 million pay cut and Reid should agree to circumstances no other player has had to?