Eric Reid thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Boston is grasping at straws and whining like he has been all offseason. These dudes were all expecting a big payday and now have to deal with the reality that teams don't value them as highly.





Because a safety who frequently whiffs on tackles and had inexplicable coverage lapses just isn't worth that much.




Boston could have another pretty good season and he still won't get paid $6 million+ next year like he wants. He's not a complete safety, never has been. Ten years ago he'd be raking in the dough but times change and priorities change.


The league isn't throwing big money at most free agent safeties, not because some laughable notion of a league wide conspiracy against safeties but because these guys simply aren't worth the money they are asking.


Supply and demand. Two straight drafts loaded at safety have brought a ton of supply. Why pay a middling veteran when you can develop your own cheaper young safeties? Unless you have an injury, none of these guys are moving the dial for you so why pay a lot?

Phoenix, I completely see where you're coming from, there are a lot of factors that have gone into the dwindling of the Strong Safety market, however it also saw the rise of the $ backer (Mark Barron, Deon Buchanan types) who can basically play Nickel LB in a base package.

I am merely pointing out that it's a plausible explanation that one of the factors is because of Reid, and I'm not alone.

Dismiss it if you like but there is certainly smoke there, I'm not so sure about the fire, but if you ignore it it can spread.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Phoenix, I completely see where you're coming from, there are a lot of factors that have gone into the dwindling of the Strong Safety market, however it also saw the rise of the $ backer (Mark Barron, Deon Buchanan types) who can basically play Nickel LB in a base package.

I am merely pointing out that it's a plausible explanation that one of the factors is because of Reid, and I'm not alone.

Dismiss it if you like but there is certainly smoke there, I'm not so sure about the fire, but if you ignore it it can spread.

Looking at the situation objectively, Reid made himself a controversial distraction that was costing people money. When youre a mediocre player, you cant do that.

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Phoenix, I completely see where you're coming from, there are a lot of factors that have gone into the dwindling of the Strong Safety market, however it also saw the rise of the $ backer (Mark Barron, Deon Buchanan types) who can basically play Nickel LB in a base package.

I am merely pointing out that it's a plausible explanation that one of the factors is because of Reid, and I'm not alone.

Dismiss it if you like but there is certainly smoke there, I'm not so sure about the fire, but if you ignore it it can spread.

Looking at the situation objectively, Reid made himself a controversial distraction that was costing people money. When youre a mediocre player, you cant do that.

This is the reason he's not signed. The guy was always fragile above the neck. Add age and noticeable slow down in play... You don't sign vets with liabilities to ride pine. In many cases, you're better off with a late round or UDFA talent that needs a little more time in the oven. Reid, ya, stale bread is stale bread. It's edible, but that's about it.

Donte Whitner getting a look in Oakland... my goodness, Reid is an average starting safety. There are guys that are worse.

Varacco (sp) out for the first two games and got signed

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Phoenix, I completely see where you're coming from, there are a lot of factors that have gone into the dwindling of the Strong Safety market, however it also saw the rise of the $ backer (Mark Barron, Deon Buchanan types) who can basically play Nickel LB in a base package.

I am merely pointing out that it's a plausible explanation that one of the factors is because of Reid, and I'm not alone.

Dismiss it if you like but there is certainly smoke there, I'm not so sure about the fire, but if you ignore it it can spread.

Looking at the situation objectively, Reid made himself a controversial distraction that was costing people money. When youre a mediocre player, you cant do that.

If we really look at it objectively, society made him a controversial distraction. The protest has never been about the flag, the anthem, the grass he knelt on

Originally posted by sacniner:
Donte Whitner getting a look in Oakland... my goodness, Reid is an average starting safety. There are guys that are worse.

Varacco (sp) out for the first two games and got signed

Even if Varacco.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:


I believe you may be overthinking this. The last two drafts have been loaded at safety, all of these guys apparently wanted too much money(Boston was looking for at least $7 million a year to start) so many teams simply moved on and addressed their needs via the draft.

Now these guys are having to take whatever they can get, which isn't much. Teams are lowballing the hell out of them because they can. Supply and demand.

If the 49ers want to bring back Reid then it shouldn't cost more than $2 to $3 million for the season.

You're probably right, but knowing the people in charge of the NFL and the teams, it absolutely wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not overthinking anything, just pointing out a scenario that I think is certainly possible if not plausible.

There seems to be an "us vs them" mentality when it comes to the players view on the NFL owners. I veeerrrryy seriously doubt players would be asked to do such a thing, or that a player would consider it to harm another player. It's extremely far fetched.

I really thought somebody would have signed him by now.

Originally posted by lamontb:
I really thought somebody would have signed him by now.

Might be us if we are desperate for safety depth with these injuries and he agrees to a min deal with low guarantees

Just being reported today...the Niners would be interested in having Reid back, but in a back-up role with only minimum-level pay? I get the back-up part as they feel Tartt is the starter now and going forward...however, I wish they'd offer more than the minimum to make it more enticing to Reid in offering a back-up role. Maybe Reid is just set on being a starter.

Though we know by now Reid's on-field issues with the occasional missed open field tackle, the poor angles sometimes, his health, etc., he does make some very good plays and seemed to be a good fit as an in-the-box S in this scheme. He's definitely better and more experienced than any of the back-up Safeties on the team...I like Tartt but he needs to stay healthy for an entire season. Unless there's other factors we don't know (I think Reid's involved with that Kap lawsuit vs. the NFL?), I wish he would be brought back if he'd agree to a back-up role.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Just being reported today...the Niners would be interested in having Reid back, but in a back-up role with only minimum-level pay? I get the back-up part as they feel Tartt is the starter now and going forward...however, I wish they'd offer more than the minimum to make it more enticing to Reid in offering a back-up role. Maybe Reid is just set on being a starter.

Though we know by now Reid's on-field issues with the occasional missed open field tackle, the poor angles sometimes, his health, etc., he does make some very good plays and seemed to be a good fit as an in-the-box S in this scheme. He's definitely better and more experienced than any of the back-up Safeties on the team...I like Tartt but he needs to stay healthy for an entire season. Unless there's other factors we don't know (I think Reid's involved with that Kap lawsuit vs. the NFL?), I wish he would be brought back if he'd agree to a back-up role.

Wouldn't mind having some depth at safety, maybe even depth at LB too.

Originally posted by Team49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Just being reported today...the Niners would be interested in having Reid back, but in a back-up role with only minimum-level pay? I get the back-up part as they feel Tartt is the starter now and going forward...however, I wish they'd offer more than the minimum to make it more enticing to Reid in offering a back-up role. Maybe Reid is just set on being a starter.

Though we know by now Reid's on-field issues with the occasional missed open field tackle, the poor angles sometimes, his health, etc., he does make some very good plays and seemed to be a good fit as an in-the-box S in this scheme. He's definitely better and more experienced than any of the back-up Safeties on the team...I like Tartt but he needs to stay healthy for an entire season. Unless there's other factors we don't know (I think Reid's involved with that Kap lawsuit vs. the NFL?), I wish he would be brought back if he'd agree to a back-up role.

Wouldn't mind having some depth at safety, maybe even depth at LB too.

ditto, I'd love him back as a backup and maybe sub package lb/safety tweener... nothing more

Wasn't he offered this once already before he left?

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Just being reported today...the Niners would be interested in having Reid back, but in a back-up role with only minimum-level pay? I get the back-up part as they feel Tartt is the starter now and going forward...however, I wish they'd offer more than the minimum to make it more enticing to Reid in offering a back-up role. Maybe Reid is just set on being a starter.

Though we know by now Reid's on-field issues with the occasional missed open field tackle, the poor angles sometimes, his health, etc., he does make some very good plays and seemed to be a good fit as an in-the-box S in this scheme. He's definitely better and more experienced than any of the back-up Safeties on the team...I like Tartt but he needs to stay healthy for an entire season. Unless there's other factors we don't know (I think Reid's involved with that Kap lawsuit vs. the NFL?), I wish he would be brought back if he'd agree to a back-up role.

Junior Gallette is begging for league minimum on Twitter today while Reid is doing everything he can to deny work to make his piggy-back collusion case stronger...darn those airlines mixups.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Donte Whitner getting a look in Oakland... my goodness, Reid is an average starting safety. There are guys that are worse.

Varacco (sp) out for the first two games and got signed

Even if Varacco.

Wow didn't know Whitner was still around