Cleveland Browns Thread

Originally posted by Black24Razor:

What if Mason Rudolph liked posts from Candace Owens? She and Tomi Lahren have very similar ideas. But since Candace Owens is black, would it be so easy to call Rudolph a racist? I agree with the other posters that if Rudolph has said something remotely racist, we'd have heard about long before Wednesday. Either way, Rudolph escalated the situation to begin with by trying to pull Garrett's helmet off.

Where is Candace Owens from? I need to know her background when speaking on black American issues. Who is paying her other than the discrimination lawsuit she won years ago but now she claims there is no racism of the sort? My family has been here more than 350 years that I've traced since before America became an America and I can tell you that a Johnny come lately may be "black" like me but all skinfolk ain't kinfolk. Stephen A Snitch is a paid shill no different than Candace Owens. Now I can agree with her on some things being that I'm generally conservative but some of her public takes and her past history lets me know that I can't trust her. Lots of my folk feel the same way and that's why she's ultimately supported by those she's supported by. It doesn't come with a retirement plan though. Stacey Dash found that out

Originally posted by lamontb:

Yea I don't buy this fro Garrett at all. I'm black and if that had been said to me I would've told everybody right after the game. And still would've been pissed off. He was calm and collected after the game just admitting fault. Tried to play the race card a week later after him and his team thought about a way to reduce his sentence. Him and Stephen A are both a disgrace.

If he's lying then so be it. He's going to miss the season anyway and he's be wrong as hell lying on Rudolph but I knew what I thought of Rudolph two months ago and Google had it buried or deprioritized. Had to use an alternate search engine to find it. He had the gall to speak on another QB's silent protest vouching for folk like myself. Acting as if he's so patriotic and I bet his folk ain't been here long as mine having fought in every war in these lands since the war of independence. They fought and came home to be treated criminally and this dude had to put this out there about what Kap is fighting for.

The audacity of dude so for me it ain't to be unexpected had Rudolph said something out of pocket. Now Garrett could indeed be lying so that is why I ain't beating the drums about him being penalized. Thing is that Rudolph went for his head first and the harshest off penalty should have been levied for that alone and you can argue that since he went for Myles head that Myles was standing his ground (10 toes down) in doing the same

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
If he's lying then so be it. He's going to miss the season anyway and he's be wrong as hell lying on Rudolph but I knew what I thought of Rudolph two months ago and Google had it buried or deprioritized. Had to use an alternate search engine to find it. He had the gall to speak on another QB's silent protest vouching for folk like myself. Acting as if he's so patriotic and I bet his folk ain't been here long as mine having fought in every war in these lands since the war of independence. They fought and came home to be treated criminally and this dude had to put this out there about what Kap is fighting for.

The audacity of dude so for me it ain't to be unexpected had Rudolph said something out of pocket. Now Garrett could indeed be lying so that is why I ain't beating the drums about him being penalized. Thing is that Rudolph went for his head first and the harshest off penalty should have been levied for that alone and you can argue that since he went for Myles head that Myles was standing his ground (10 toes down) in doing the same

I don't think there is any question what MG did is far worse that what Rudolph did (physically). No doubt Rudolph should have consequences for his physical actions, but MG deserves far more for what he did.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Pouncey ran in as the helmet is being swung, and was behind everything. I highly doubt he was in position to hear what was said.

As far as Mason not having a history, that doesn't really prove that he did not or would not say it. Maybe he was pushed far enough to let it slip and hadn't been pushed that far before.

How would Rudolph have been in position to know who might hear him or not? Saying something like that can be a career-ender. Look at Riley Cooper and how that followed him around for the remainder of his career.





Sorry, I don't buy it. I think it is way too convenient. Especially since none of his teammates had heard a thing about it. Its also not the first time Garrett has had trouble keeping his cool on the field. Its becoming more of a pattern with him at this point which I think definitely played a role in the NFL's decision.


Garrett lost his cool and could have legit crippled or killed Rudolph with a more accurate placement on his helmet swing, at which point he'd be trying to come up with excuses from a prison cell. He needs to get some of that anger management before he goes down the Burfict path.

Over reaction
People get legit hit by helmets all the time Strahan did it to a teammate in practice and Howie said he saw it many times. Nobody got hurt.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

I told my nephew more than two months ago once Rudolph took over for Ben that Rudolph had racist tendencies over some web activity he'd made. I'm having a hard time finding them online now after this recent incident. (Ok I had to use Bing search engine to find it as google had it buried). I wouldn't at all be surprised now that he ran his mouth and it led to him getting that beat down after he ran up on Myles to get his issue.

Me hearing Myles saying this about Rudolph now two months later is what I'd expect. I reacted the same as Myles back when I was younger and in school. I didn't have a helmet but I had my hands. You ran your mouth with me in that manner and you got swift justice. https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/09/steelers-mason-rudolph-supports-anti-colin-kaepernick-rudolph-is-big-fan-of-tomi-lahren-maga-trump-tweets-ig/

LOL Tomi Lahren isn't a white supremist or racists. She's a conservative activist. One does not equate to the other. If this is your "proof" that Mason is racist, you have issues PB.......

Activist, lol.

Only racists equate the KKK with BLM.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I told my nephew more than two months ago once Rudolph took over for Ben that Rudolph had racist tendencies over some web activity he'd made. I'm having a hard time finding them online now after this recent incident. (Ok I had to use Bing search engine to find it as google had it buried). I wouldn't at all be surprised now that he ran his mouth and it led to him getting that beat down after he ran up on Myles to get his issue.

Me hearing Myles saying this about Rudolph now two months later is what I'd expect. I reacted the same as Myles back when I was younger and in school. I didn't have a helmet but I had my hands. You ran your mouth with me in that manner and you got swift justice. https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/09/steelers-mason-rudolph-supports-anti-colin-kaepernick-rudolph-is-big-fan-of-tomi-lahren-maga-trump-tweets-ig/

LOL Tomi Lahren isn't a white supremist or racists. She's a conservative activist. One does not equate to the other. If this is your "proof" that Mason is racist, you have issues PB.......

Activist, lol.

Only racists equate the KKK with BLM.

True

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea I don't buy this fro Garrett at all. I'm black and if that had been said to me I would've told everybody right after the game. And still would've been pissed off. He was calm and collected after the game just admitting fault. Tried to play the race card a week later after him and his team thought about a way to reduce his sentence. Him and Stephen A are both a disgrace.

If he's lying then so be it. He's going to miss the season anyway and he's be wrong as hell lying on Rudolph but I knew what I thought of Rudolph two months ago and Google had it buried or deprioritized. Had to use an alternate search engine to find it. He had the gall to speak on another QB's silent protest vouching for folk like myself. Acting as if he's so patriotic and I bet his folk ain't been here long as mine having fought in every war in these lands since the war of independence. They fought and came home to be treated criminally and this dude had to put this out there about what Kap is fighting for.

The audacity of dude so for me it ain't to be unexpected had Rudolph said something out of pocket. Now Garrett could indeed be lying so that is why I ain't beating the drums about him being penalized. Thing is that Rudolph went for his head first and the harshest off penalty should have been levied for that alone and you can argue that since he went for Myles head that Myles was standing his ground (10 toes down) in doing the same

I'm gonna do some research on that. And It's possible he did call him that. I just cant see it from Myles's reaction. I just see no way he calls him that and he doesn't speak of it until a meeting with the NFL.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

I don't think there is any question what MG did is far worse that what Rudolph did (physically). No doubt Rudolph should have consequences for his physical actions, but MG deserves far more for what he did.

Being fair is being fair. Garrett took it up several notches so he should get harsher discipline if discipline is being doled out. No problem here. I just think you have to disincentivize the provoking party as well. If we don't want to see this in the game again then we need to hit Garrett obviously and tap Rudolph pockets as well so there are consequences

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
I don't think there is any question what MG did is far worse that what Rudolph did (physically). No doubt Rudolph should have consequences for his physical actions, but MG deserves far more for what he did.

Being fair is being fair. Garrett took it up several notches so he should get harsher discipline if discipline is being doled out. No problem here. I just think you have to disincentivize the provoking party as well. If we don't want to see this in the game again then we need to hit Garrett obviously and tap Rudolph pockets as well so there are consequences

100% Agree with you on this Pil...IMO, Rudolph is not a victim, he is definitely at fault too. The fact he gets off scott free is a joke.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I told my nephew more than two months ago once Rudolph took over for Ben that Rudolph had racist tendencies over some web activity he'd made. I'm having a hard time finding them online now after this recent incident. (Ok I had to use Bing search engine to find it as google had it buried). I wouldn't at all be surprised now that he ran his mouth and it led to him getting that beat down after he ran up on Myles to get his issue.

Me hearing Myles saying this about Rudolph now two months later is what I'd expect. I reacted the same as Myles back when I was younger and in school. I didn't have a helmet but I had my hands. You ran your mouth with me in that manner and you got swift justice. https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/09/steelers-mason-rudolph-supports-anti-colin-kaepernick-rudolph-is-big-fan-of-tomi-lahren-maga-trump-tweets-ig/

LOL Tomi Lahren isn't a white supremist or racists. She's a conservative activist. One does not equate to the other. If this is your "proof" that Mason is racist, you have issues PB.......

Activist, lol.

Only racists equate the KKK with BLM.

You have problems man, seriously. If you see her as a racist......nvm, I understand what kind of mind I am debating.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

I told my nephew more than two months ago once Rudolph took over for Ben that Rudolph had racist tendencies over some web activity he'd made. I'm having a hard time finding them online now after this recent incident. (Ok I had to use Bing search engine to find it as google had it buried). I wouldn't at all be surprised now that he ran his mouth and it led to him getting that beat down after he ran up on Myles to get his issue.

Me hearing Myles saying this about Rudolph now two months later is what I'd expect. I reacted the same as Myles back when I was younger and in school. I didn't have a helmet but I had my hands. You ran your mouth with me in that manner and you got swift justice. https://blacksportsonline.com/2019/09/steelers-mason-rudolph-supports-anti-colin-kaepernick-rudolph-is-big-fan-of-tomi-lahren-maga-trump-tweets-ig/

LOL Tomi Lahren isn't a white supremist or racists. She's a conservative activist. One does not equate to the other. If this is your "proof" that Mason is racist, you have issues PB.......

Activist, lol.

Only racists equate the KKK with BLM.

You have problems man, seriously. If you see her as a racist......nvm, I understand what kind of mind I am debating.

Equating Black Live Matter with the Ku Klux Klan is racist.


Maybe you have the kind of mind that equates, lynching women and children and burning little girls alive to protesting police violence. To me, that is racist.

Maybe she just said it to get clicks out of dumb racists who equate the KKK with BLM.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Being fair is being fair. Garrett took it up several notches so he should get harsher discipline if discipline is being doled out. No problem here. I just think you have to disincentivize the provoking party as well. If we don't want to see this in the game again then we need to hit Garrett obviously and tap Rudolph pockets as well so there are consequences

I agree completely

This thread is a Browns thread in NFL Talk. Please keep it about Garrett/Rudolph without getting too much into non football stuff. Thanks all.

Originally posted by Black24Razor:

100% Agree with you on this Pil...IMO, Rudolph is not a victim, he is definitely at fault too. The fact he gets off scott free is a joke.

Right

can we please talk about obj being irrelevant af.