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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
^^ No matter what "pass rush" these teams you are mentioning had, those teams also had some of the best interior D-lineman. Vrabel wasn't an elite rusher, solid but not elite, yet you throw Vince Wilfork in the middle and Vrabel can hit double digits.

When Von Miller and Denvers D took over games during their SB run, yes they had Ware and Miller on the edges but one underrated story line from that defense outside of its DE's and CB's was that the interior lineman also had career years that year. Last year the eagles interior helped it's edge rushers also have career years. Ravens legendary D had Siragusa and Sam Adams. Giants had Tuck on the inside in beast mode for their great D-lines. The Steelers had Casey Hampton and Co.

It can be a chicken or the egg argument but while edge rushers get the notoriety and stats, everytime passrushers "pop" in the postseason, one can also bank on the interior D-Line playing at a elevated as well.

That said... we got our interior solid AF.... trade for Mack! At this point the niners need to decide if they are really in "win now" mode or still considering this year as a transition as they put together the last pieces. Its steep but 2 1st's would be a bargain for a DPOY. They can always package picks to hop into the end of the first round for a fallen prospect or just continue their trend of mid-late round gems.

No...build the team thru the draft and use that money on multiple players...do NOT use those draft picks AND money on ONE player.

Yes out interior DL is great, guess what you gotta pay Buck sooner than later and that will NOT be cheap.

SF is not a elite pass rusher away from "win now" mode.

I'd throw a 1st and a pick in 2020 at the MOST. Stop throwing Mack in the category of a QB.....because that's what you're basically valuing him as.

Totally agree.
Originally posted by jcs:
Reading that the Raiders might not have the cash on hand to pay him the guaranteed money that he's demanding

Yippee!
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Originally posted by jcs:
Reading that the Raiders might not have the cash on hand to pay him the guaranteed money that he's demanding

Even if they didn't... they could EASILY borrow against future receivables with the new stadium. They would be the most secure loan to make in lending history. So, this is just fan talk. Short term and long term cash flow are a non-issue. The issue is about worth.
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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
He's gonna wind up with the Rams.

That's their MO.

Rams were the first team I thought of too. That would definitely muck up everything the Niners are do.
Rams can't pay Aaron Donald right now.
I have a funny feeling the Raiders will trade him to some random team and everyone will be pissed at Lynch even though we talked to them...
Originally posted by NYniner85:

But has he spoken to him??
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by jcs:
Reading that the Raiders might not have the cash on hand to pay him the guaranteed money that he's demanding

Even if they didn't... they could EASILY borrow against future receivables with the new stadium. They would be the most secure loan to make in lending history. So, this is just fan talk. Short term and long term cash flow are a non-issue. The issue is about worth.

They don't even have the money to pay for that LV stadium without concessions and you think they'll be able to borrow $100 million off of it to play a player?
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by jcs:
Reading that the Raiders might not have the cash on hand to pay him the guaranteed money that he's demanding

Even if they didn't... they could EASILY borrow against future receivables with the new stadium. They would be the most secure loan to make in lending history. So, this is just fan talk. Short term and long term cash flow are a non-issue. The issue is about worth.

They don't even have the money to pay for that LV stadium without concessions and you think they'll be able to borrow $100 million off of it to play a player?

I believe there is some league rule that requires a team always have a certain percentage of their salary obligations in the bank at all times.

Davis has the lowest net worth of all NFL owners - estimated to be $500,000,000. He can't just sign a check and hope the sell out in LV in time to cover it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/08/15/heres-why-the-49ers-should-offer-the-farm-in-a-trade-for-khalil-mack/#5656cda92899
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Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/08/15/heres-why-the-49ers-should-offer-the-farm-in-a-trade-for-khalil-mack/#5656cda92899

Armstead, Ward, a 1st and a 2nd? No. Too much.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/08/15/heres-why-the-49ers-should-offer-the-farm-in-a-trade-for-khalil-mack/#5656cda92899

Armstead, Ward, a 1st and a 2nd? No. Too much.

It's really just a 1st and a 2nd round pick. And would clear some tables in the medical facility.
Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/08/15/heres-why-the-49ers-should-offer-the-farm-in-a-trade-for-khalil-mack/#5656cda92899

who the hell uses the term "the farm" when talking about football?
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/08/15/heres-why-the-49ers-should-offer-the-farm-in-a-trade-for-khalil-mack/#5656cda92899

Armstead, Ward, a 1st and a 2nd? No. Too much.

I disagree. 2 injury prone, under achieving players coupled with a 1st and a 2nd would be a steal for a DPOY monster off the edge. Do you take issue with the picks, the players or both?
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by jcs:
Reading that the Raiders might not have the cash on hand to pay him the guaranteed money that he's demanding

Even if they didn't... they could EASILY borrow against future receivables with the new stadium. They would be the most secure loan to make in lending history. So, this is just fan talk. Short term and long term cash flow are a non-issue. The issue is about worth.

They don't even have the money to pay for that LV stadium without concessions and you think they'll be able to borrow $100 million off of it to play a player?

Yes. It would be a 15 minute phone call. Don't be ridiculous. Lenders want to secure their loans. An NFL team moving into a new stadium is a mortal lock.

I get that it's funny to trash the Raiders. And it's even funnier to talk about how little money somebody has. But this is an NFL team sitting on a billion dollar stadium, with GUARANTEED REVENUE provided by the league. I didn't say taking a loan would be smart business. It would be dumb. All I'm saying is if they agreed to terms with Mack...they could easily have the cash on hand to put into escrow and make it happen. This is a fan-narrative. The issue is that the Raiders know they have him guaranteed to be on their roster for the next 3 years at predictable prices. Literally the only thing Mack can do is not play football...which means the Raiders don't have to pay him. Their defense cannot get any worse.
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