Khalil Mack thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Maiocco on KNBR today: "I think the 49ers would be wise to at least make a phone call and see what it's going to take, and then kind of assess from there whether it makes sense for them, while also realizing what kind of contract it's going to take to carry through with that deal. I mean if Khalil Mack isn't happy with the contract he has with the Raiders, then he's going to want something from any team that's going to be willing to trade for him."

oh no doubt they should call and I'd be shocked if that haven't yet.

SF has shown they're willing to pay players, it's the compensation that's the head scratcher.

If I'm Oakland I'm asking for the moon and throwing out unrealistic compensation for him. I can't see anyone truly giving up what they'd be happy with getting as far as trade value goes.

He would look pretty sweet in red and gold though.

I don't know if I'd be okay with him sporting 52 tbh

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by jcs:
Mack is a proven entity on a position of high value in the NFL...debatably as valuable or just below a QB. If he gets moved it will be for a kings ransom...2 firsts are the base.

There's not a single position group in the big four sports of this country that even comes close to the level of impact as the QB.

Two firsts may be what the Raiders ask for. I have no doubt that is true. Two 1sts is just a moronic move for this team to make for Mack considering you also have to dump over $100M (most of it guaranteed) into him.

Didn't Chandler Jones lead the NFL in sacks last year? How did the Cardinals do? Hell, how did the Raiders do WITH Mack?

His impact is disproportionate to the trade comp you're suggesting.

I'm not making the case against Mack. I'm making the case against the internet suggested price.

What does C.Jones have to do with the current value of K.Mack...just as an example we landed Jimmy for a 2nd but that was with just 3 starts to his name. Mack is already a 2x all pro and former DPOY who is looking to potentially move, an instant star to a team where Jones and Jimmy were still in development when they were eventually moved.

Jimmy G won us five games. I can honestly say if we had Khalil instead of Jimmy G during those five games, Niner's record would be 1-15.

Exactly. Mack simply can never have the same impact. But he will have nearly the same contract. So, trade compensation needs to be dialed back significantly from the internet suggested price.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I don't know if I'd be okay with him sporting 52 tbh

Gonna have to change his number no doubt

Chris Simms Said 49ers was were one of 3 teams he sees as a possible landing spot in a trade for Mack

End of the day he doesn't see it happening

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Chris Simms Said 49ers was were one of 3 teams he sees as a possible landing spot in a trade for Mack

End of the day he doesn't see it happening

I have a hard time imagining Mack will elect to miss more than one game check, even if it's not at the rate he wants.

I think it's more likely he's traded in the offseason when the Raiders can be absolutely sure which draft slots they're getting back in return.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Chris Simms Said 49ers was were one of 3 teams he sees as a possible landing spot in a trade for Mack

End of the day Br doesn't see it happening

What is Br?

If the Raiders would take next year's 1st and a 2020 2nd, I would strongly consider it if I were the Niners (good chance the Raiders would want better than that). Plus, as mentioned, you still have to pay Mack and make him happy - but this also applies for the Raiders and any team that wants to acquire him. The Niners are fortunate to have the $, which most teams aren't in the same position...the huge question is do you invest so much (draft capital, $) into a player of Mack's caliber who's one of the absolute best at getting to the QB and disrupting other teams' game plans? Another question I hear on the radio here in the Bay Area...would the Raiders trade him to their cross-bay rivals and further piss off their local fan base? I can't stand the Raiders...good riddance when they move to Vegas (just had to get that in there).

Bro is serious...gonna lose like $800k if he doesn't show up tomorrow

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

What is Br?

If the Raiders would take next year's 1st and a 2020 2nd, I would strongly consider it if I were the Niners (good chance the Raiders would want better than that). Plus, as mentioned, you still have to pay Mack and make him happy - but this also applies for the Raiders and any team that wants to acquire him. The Niners are fortunate to have the $, which most teams aren't in the same position...the huge question is do you invest so much (draft capital, $) into a player of Mack's caliber who's one of the absolute best at getting to the QB and disrupting other teams' game plans? Another question I hear on the radio here in the Bay Area...would the Raiders trade him to their cross-bay rivals and further piss off their local fan base? I can't stand the Raiders...good riddance when they move to Vegas (just had to get that in there).

It was suppose to say he (corrected it after) basically what you said is what Chris Simms stated (who is actually BFs with Kyle shanahan)

Said they're the top team in his mind for a possible trade, they have the cash and need. He said that it would be a double f**k to go across the bay and Davis might not want to do that.

He also stated he doesn't see anyway a non QB would ever cost multiple 1sts and Simms is a huge Mack fan.

2019 1st 2020 2nd make it happen

Originally posted by okdkid:

I have a hard time imagining Mack will elect to miss more than one game check, even if it's not at the rate he wants.

I think it's more likely he's traded in the offseason when the Raiders can be absolutely sure which draft slots they're getting back in return.

We will find out tomorrow

One thing that's getting overlooked is Jones was having some legal issues and character questions. Mack from what I can see is a model citizen/teammate. While I don't believe that increases his value at 2 1sts, he certainly is worth more than Jones at the time if his trade.

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

One thing that's getting overlooked is Jones was having some legal issues and character questions. Mack from whatb can see is a model citizen/teammate. While I don't believe that increases his value at 2 1sts, he certainly is worth more than Jones at the time if his trade.

Not saying Mack and Jones should command the same value, I was stating the internet value being placed on Mack is nonsense and not realistic. Mack isn't worth 70% more in trade compensation then Jones.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
What is Br?

If the Raiders would take next year's 1st and a 2020 2nd, I would strongly consider it if I were the Niners (good chance the Raiders would want better than that). Plus, as mentioned, you still have to pay Mack and make him happy - but this also applies for the Raiders and any team that wants to acquire him. The Niners are fortunate to have the $, which most teams aren't in the same position...the huge question is do you invest so much (draft capital, $) into a player of Mack's caliber who's one of the absolute best at getting to the QB and disrupting other teams' game plans? Another question I hear on the radio here in the Bay Area...would the Raiders trade him to their cross-bay rivals and further piss off their local fan base? I can't stand the Raiders...good riddance when they move to Vegas (just had to get that in there).

It was suppose to say he (corrected it after) basically what you said is what Chris Simms stated (who is actually BFs with Kyle shanahan)

Said they're the top team in his mind for a possible trade, they have the cash and need. He said that it would be a double f**k to go across the bay and Davis might not want to do that.

He also stated he doesn't see anyway a non QB would ever cost multiple 1sts and Simms is a huge Mack fan.

2019 1st 2020 2nd make it happen

Agreed - let's do business!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

One thing that's getting overlooked is Jones was having some legal issues and character questions. Mack from whatb can see is a model citizen/teammate. While I don't believe that increases his value at 2 1sts, he certainly is worth more than Jones at the time if his trade.

Not saying Mack and Jones should command the same value, I was stating the internet value being placed on Mack is nonsense and not realistic. Mack isn't worth 70% more in trade compensation then Jones.

Absolutely agree. If the Raiders can get a 1st for him, they need to take it and run.

I personally would love for us to make a move (2019 2nd, 2020 3rd maybe?) To get him. He has the potential to transform our defense like Charles Haley did when we traded him to Dallas. still mad about that trade.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
We will find out tomorrow

Khalil Mack may silence skeptics regarding his willingness to hold out into the regular season when he incurs a fine of more than $800,000 on Friday https://t.co/5meJJ6bLUo

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) August 9, 2018

This stuff happens every year. Players know that when they strike a deal the team will wipe the fines away. Has a team in recent memory forced a player to pay multi million dollar fines for holding out? It happens for personal misconduct, but I can't ever remember it happening for a hold out.

Mack acting like a diva he's getting paid high amount this year. He should report and try to workout a deal.