Khalil Mack thread

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

As much as I would love that, it's not happening. I don't think the Raiders ever worked out a trade together? But if they did the most I'd trade is a 1st and 2nd round picks.

if we believe people here. we will spend a number one on a pass rusher so why wait that long to get one

Because that won't take multiple draft picks as WELL as a boatload of cash. If you have to give up picks you will need to be able to buy a FA for whatever needs you have at some point. If you buy high priced free agents you need to draft new players because of cap constraints. If you go out and start throwing high draft picks and cash as well to buy a player, you give up both.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
As much as I would love that, it's not happening. I don't think the Raiders ever worked out a trade together? But if they did the most I'd trade is a 1st and 2nd round picks.

if we believe people here. we will spend a number one on a pass rusher so why wait that long to get one

Because that won't take multiple draft picks as WELL as a boatload of cash. If you have to give up picks you will need to be able to buy a FA for whatever needs you have at some point. If you buy high priced free agents you need to draft new players because of cap constraints. If you go out and start throwing high draft picks and cash as well to buy a player, you give up both.

but you would be getting an all pro pass rusher, which is the most important position and biggest need on defense. It is not easy to pick out someone of Khalil's caliber in the draft and most likely wont happen if we get into the playoffs

I really do believe that we are a blue chip pass rusher and above average RG away from being a true SB contender. I have my eyes on us acquiring Yanda at some point of the season. He is on his last year and if the Ravens give the reins to Jackson at some point, no doubt they will fall into rebuild mode and start getting what they can older players

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Buckner and Mack, let that sink in

As much as I would love that, it's not happening. I don't think the Raiders ever worked out a trade together? But if they did the most I'd trade is a 1st and 2nd round picks.

Agreed. Amazed wouldn't even be the word if he somehow ended up on the 49ers

When we got Justin smith we paid that guy and it worked out great since he was coming into his prime .....I say we go all out and get Mack on this roster ...imagine the impact defo would have with offenses doubling Mack not him ..15 sacks?

Originally posted by Hardcoreniner559:
When we got Justin smith we paid that guy and it worked out great since he was coming into his prime .....I say we go all out and get Mack on this roster ...imagine the impact defo would have with offenses doubling Mack not him ..15 sacks?

except we didn''t trade for him.

Originally posted by Hardcoreniner559:

When we got Justin smith we paid that guy and it worked out great since he was coming into his prime .....I say we go all out and get Mack on this roster ...imagine the impact defo would have with offenses doubling Mack not him ..15 sacks?

This

Make it happen Lynch

Originally posted by jimrat:
Make it happen Lynch

Lynch: "Yes Gruden! I'll tell you what, we'll give you our 1st next year and our 1st in 2020 for Mack."
Gruden: "Throw in Buckner."
Lynch: "Eh... we're looking to extend him. How about the two 1sts and I throw in Armstead, Garnett and Ward?
...
"Hello?"

Nobody is giving away 2 first round draft picks and then turning around and giving Mack over a 100 million dollars. How many teams have the cap room to make that happen?

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

except we didn''t trade for him.

I never said we did

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Lynch: "Yes Gruden! I'll tell you what, we'll give you our 1st next year and our 1st in 2020 for Mack."
Gruden: "Throw in Buckner."
Lynch: "Eh... we're looking to extend him. How about the two 1sts and I throw in Armstead, Garnett and Ward?
...
"Hello?"

2 first round picks is something I doubt gruden would reject

Originally posted by Hardcoreniner559:

2 first round picks is something I doubt gruden would reject

If this is true than a trade would have most certainly happened by now.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

If this is true than a trade would have most certainly happened by now.

Teams don't give up first round picks easily especially 2 of them ......also consider the fact not many teams can work that contract into there team plus other factors

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Hardcoreniner559:

When we got Justin smith we paid that guy and it worked out great since he was coming into his prime .....I say we go all out and get Mack on this roster ...imagine the impact defo would have with offenses doubling Mack not him ..15 sacks?

except we didn''t trade for him.

Which goes back to my point. If you give up first round picks and take a monster contract at the same time you hamstring yourself for the future. Sign an FA? Sure. Trade your picks to move up in the draft? Sure. Give your picks away and the pay the guy that much? Not happening.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Just my opinion, but it's no accident that the 49er Dynasty was built on elite edge rushers like Fred and Charles. Defense wins super bowls, and we had two elite edge rushers for almost 19-ish years and that's why we had an almost 20 year playoff run and 5 super bowls with no losses. Elite edge rushers makes good defenses elite and operate at a dynasty level, not just playoff level, or a one and done super bowl levels like the Sea Chickens. I just think that's how important an edge rusher is, and ShanaLynch have stated that's who they are looking for, but their actions (so far - hoping for them to try to get Kalil) have been a bit disappointing. Again, I defer to you draft experts, but to me - trading basically 2 second round picks for Kalil isn't overvaluing him at all if what I've read on paper about him is true.

You're bringing up Haley and Dean from like 30 yrs ago...who's the HOF edge rushers that the patriots have had? Dynasties get built in a number of ways.

Throwing multiple 1sts and $100 million is not smart football, this team isn't a elite edge rusher from a SB.