Antonio Brown

lets trade our 2nd rounder and Garcon to the Steelers!
the season just ended and march is far far away.. so much can happen till then and no trade can happen till march free agency right?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bill's history with the Brown's could have come into play here since they fired him.

He probably vowed never to help that organization again.

well that's not true

Browns agree to trade Danny Shelton to Patriots. The Browns agreed to trade defensive tackle Danny Shelton to the New England Patriots, a source informed of the deal told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport. In return, the Browns will receive a third-round pick in the 2019 NFL Draft and Cleveland will send a 2018 fifth-rounder to New England, per Rapoport.

The New England Patriots have traded linebacker Jamie Collins to the Cleveland Browns for a draft pick. The trade is for a third-round compensatory pick if the Browns are awarded one, a source told ESPN's Pat McManamon.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bill's history with the Brown's could have come into play here since they fired him.

He probably vowed never to help that organization again.

Practically gave them Jamie Collins who was a pro bowl linebacker with the Patriots

Then the whole Brown's were willing to give up a 1st for Jimmy G sounds untrue.

Did you not read what I wrote? Bill wasn't trading him until the trade deadline (oct 31st) they (Browns) reportedly offered that back before the draft that yr.

Bill kept JG as long as he could.

So the Browns rescinded the offer?

Cause reports said that the Browns said they offered more but didn't hear back from the Pat's and next thing they knew JG was in SF.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We have all the cap space in the world, what we need are good football players.

That said, I wouldn't give up draft capital in the form of #2 overall.

IMO draft compensation wouldn't even come from the upcoming draft...if there's a trade (which we all agree is slim) they most likely don't make a move until after June 1st to save as much money as possible.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

LOL, try it in Madden and see what happens.

They would want #2 overall for Brown, did you see what the Cowboys gave up for Cooper?

Goodness... I don't know where to even start with this one.

First of all, Cooper is on a rookie contract, not a $20M a year contract. Second of all, Cooper is seven years younger. Third of all, Cooper was a top 4 pick. Fourth of all, I don't remember Cooper ever leaving his team in a must-win game. Fifth of all, Cooper isn't making headlines with social media business or refusing to take calls from his own team.

I'd offer the Steelers pick #36 at the most. Even a 1st-round swap would be too much. The whole league is seeing what's going on and nobody is going to want to bite with a 1st rounder.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
So the Browns rescinded the offer?

Cause reports said that the Browns said they offered more but didn't hear back from the Pat's and next thing they knew JG was in SF.

I saw reports that sashi brown didn't even know Jimmy G was on the table or traded until after

and what offer? the draft already happened in April when they said they'd give up the 12th overall pick....they didn't have that pick anymore (or know where they would be picking in the 2018 draft).

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

We have all the cap space in the world, what we need are good football players.

That said, I wouldn't give up draft capital in the form of #2 overall.

IMO draft compensation wouldn't even come from the upcoming draft...if there's a trade (which we all agree is slim) they most likely don't make a move until after June 1st to save as much money as possible.

6th round pick and Witherspoon and it's a deal

Originally posted by FL9er:
49ers fans be like "who cares that he's a punkass primmadona, that the Steelers would only move on THEIR terms, trade him! It doesn't matter what we have to give up!!!!!!!!! He's the difference between 4-12 and the playoffs!!!!

Fa sho!!! Real spit!!!"

culture is overrated. We're 4-12. Who cares if hes a diva.

I want WINNERS!

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

culture is overrated. We're 4-12. Who cares if hes a diva.

I want WINNERS!

Steelers are my pick to come out of the AFC in the playoffs for sure

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by FL9er:
49ers fans be like "who cares that he's a punkass primmadona, that the Steelers would only move on THEIR terms, trade him! It doesn't matter what we have to give up!!!!!!!!! He's the difference between 4-12 and the playoffs!!!!

Fa sho!!! Real spit!!!"

culture is overrated. We're 4-12. Who cares if hes a diva.

I want WINNERS!

Yup, I want proven talent NOW. I'm not giving them a 1st rd pick (certainly not this yrs) If we can give them a player and a 2nd I can live with that. IF not they can deal with the drama. Big Ben IMO seems to always be at the center of it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yup, I want proven talent NOW. I'm not giving them a 1st rd pick (certainly not this yrs) If we can give them a player and a 2nd I can live with that. IF not they can deal with the drama. Big Ben IMO seems to always be at the center of it.

.... you said no to Khalil Mack

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by badguy_1:

Trade Solomon Thomas and a 3rd rounder to the Steelers... One of their needs is an interior defender and they aren't in a position to get a top one in the draft. Then, we draft Quinnen "Aaron Donald" Williams with the second pick and our two DT's are the best in the league.

LMAOOOOOOOOO

LOL seriously. Id hang up so quick if I was the Steelers.

Thomas and a 2nd?

I have to assume that you believe there is value in "Thomas and a ____." I see Thomas and a ___ pick as basically a ___ pick and a throw in. So you and I will never agree on what a fair trade would be if Thomas is included.

Cooper was traded for a 1st round pick. Cooper cant hold Brown's jockstrap.

Cooper is also young and on his rookie deal. Brown is 30 and on a massive deal. If they want the 2nd overall pick they can go to hell.

Yeah, A brown trade and the cooper trade are very different circumstances, especially because of where they are in their career and their contracts.

Brown is a perennial all pro wr.. Top 3 in the league.

Cooper is just another talented wr. Mack is the example to look at and the multiple first round picks it took to move him.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yup, I want proven talent NOW. I'm not giving them a 1st rd pick (certainly not this yrs) If we can give them a player and a 2nd I can live with that. IF not they can deal with the drama. Big Ben IMO seems to always be at the center of it.

.... you said no to Khalil Mack

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by badguy_1:

Trade Solomon Thomas and a 3rd rounder to the Steelers... One of their needs is an interior defender and they aren't in a position to get a top one in the draft. Then, we draft Quinnen "Aaron Donald" Williams with the second pick and our two DT's are the best in the league.

LMAOOOOOOOOO

LOL seriously. Id hang up so quick if I was the Steelers.

Thomas and a 2nd?

I have to assume that you believe there is value in "Thomas and a ____." I see Thomas and a ___ pick as basically a ___ pick and a throw in. So you and I will never agree on what a fair trade would be if Thomas is included.

Cooper was traded for a 1st round pick. Cooper cant hold Brown's jockstrap.

Cooper is also young and on his rookie deal. Brown is 30 and on a massive deal. If they want the 2nd overall pick they can go to hell.

Yeah, A brown trade and the cooper trade are very different circumstances, especially because of where they are in their career and their contracts.

Brown is a perennial all pro wr.. Top 3 in the league.

Cooper is just another talented wr. Mack is the example to look at and the multiple first round picks it took to move him.

Mack is also a generational edge rusher just entering his prime, and is by all accounts great off the field. Brown is entering the end of his prime, plays a less important position, and is dealing with off the field issues. They're not the same value, at all.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by badguy_1:
Trade Solomon Thomas and a 3rd rounder to the Steelers... One of their needs is an interior defender and they aren't in a position to get a top one in the draft. Then, we draft Quinnen "Aaron Donald" Williams with the second pick and our two DT's are the best in the league.

LMAOOOOOOOOO

LOL seriously. Id hang up so quick if I was the Steelers.

Thomas and a 2nd?

I have to assume that you believe there is value in "Thomas and a ____." I see Thomas and a ___ pick as basically a ___ pick and a throw in. So you and I will never agree on what a fair trade would be if Thomas is included.

Cooper was traded for a 1st round pick. Cooper cant hold Brown's jockstrap.

Cooper is also young and on his rookie deal. Brown is 30 and on a massive deal. If they want the 2nd overall pick they can go to hell.

Yeah, A brown trade and the cooper trade are very different circumstances, especially because of where they are in their career and their contracts.

Brown is a perennial all pro wr.. Top 3 in the league.

Cooper is just another talented wr. Mack is the example to look at and the multiple first round picks it took to move him.

Mack is also a generational edge rusher just entering his prime, and is by all accounts great off the field. Brown is entering the end of his prime, plays a less important position, and is dealing with off the field issues. They're not the same value, at all.

How is Antonio Brown not a generational talent?

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by badguy_1:

Trade Solomon Thomas and a 3rd rounder to the Steelers... One of their needs is an interior defender and they aren't in a position to get a top one in the draft. Then, we draft Quinnen "Aaron Donald" Williams with the second pick and our two DT's are the best in the league.

LMAOOOOOOOOO

LOL seriously. Id hang up so quick if I was the Steelers.

Thomas and a 2nd?

I have to assume that you believe there is value in "Thomas and a ____." I see Thomas and a ___ pick as basically a ___ pick and a throw in. So you and I will never agree on what a fair trade would be if Thomas is included.

Cooper was traded for a 1st round pick. Cooper cant hold Brown's jockstrap.

Cooper is also young and on his rookie deal. Brown is 30 and on a massive deal. If they want the 2nd overall pick they can go to hell.

Yeah, A brown trade and the cooper trade are very different circumstances, especially because of where they are in their career and their contracts.

Brown is a perennial all pro wr.. Top 3 in the league.

Cooper is just another talented wr. Mack is the example to look at and the multiple first round picks it took to move him.

Mack is also a generational edge rusher just entering his prime, and is by all accounts great off the field. Brown is entering the end of his prime, plays a less important position, and is dealing with off the field issues. They're not the same value, at all.

Brown is 30 not 35. Brown if traded will pull a high first round pick... Easily