Chicago Bears vs. San Francisco 49ers Rebuilding Plan

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

True enough.

Pagano may be great in his own right (enough to keep them a tough D for offenses to contend with), but Fangio was a large part of their success last season.

I don't think Nagy will be able to continue the success they experienced last season, but WTF do I know.

The answer to this thread's original question may not have looked good for the 49ers last year, but it will by the end of this season.

I concur

The issue with the Bears was going all in with a young qb. If Trubisky doesn't get better in a hurry a lot of hard decisions will be needed to be made without a lot of picks to restock with.

As I have said a few times I like the Vikings blueprint on how to build much more than the Bears.

Originally posted by NCommand:

This is my thread. You're not allowed to bump it irresponsibly. LOL.

Remember, this is the year we should be matching their production from last year if Lynch had done enough. Let's revisit after the season.

Go Niners!

Actually this is the year where they should be matching their production in 2017 since that was Pace's third season as GM. In 2017 the Bears went 5-11 so I'm hopeful that the 49ers can top that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
The issue with the Bears was going all in with a young qb. If Trubisky doesn't get better in a hurry a lot of hard decisions will be needed to be made without a lot of picks to restock with.

As I have said a few times I like the Vikings blueprint on how to build much more than the Bears.

I don't mind all in with a young QB. The problem with Mitchell is that we knew very little about him. Didn't he only have one year of experience as a starter? It's one thing to be a one-year starter/wonder on D-line (see Quinnen Williams). It's an entirely different matter to be a one year starter at QB.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

So did we. That cake isn't completely baked yet on Jimmy G either. GB has a better talent on D than Tampa and without the abysmal play of Winston I fear we have the same in the W/L column as the Bears. It's a long season. Week one showed us a little bit but not that much.

The Bears have the fourth highest salary expenditure in football WITH a QB on a rookie contract. The 49ers have far more flexibility if they for some reason needed to dump Garoppolo and move on to some other QB.



The Bears are also on Year 5 with their GM so it would stand to reason that they should be a playoff lock at this point if he's built that roster right.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
So did we. That cake isn't completely baked yet on Jimmy G either. GB has a better talent on D than Tampa and without the abysmal play of Winston I fear we have the same in the W/L column as the Bears. It's a long season. Week one showed us a little bit but not that much.

The Bears have the fourth highest salary expenditure in football WITH a QB on a rookie contract. The 49ers have far more flexibility if they for some reason needed to dump Garoppolo and move on to some other QB.

The Bears are also on Year 5 with their GM so it would stand to reason that they should be a playoff lock at this point if he's built that roster right.

bro......we don't have that kind of flexibility.....I mean from a financial standpoint, yes you are right. They can cut Garappolo with little cap hit.

But if Garappolo is bad enough to actually get canned, then Jed is gonna fire this whole front office. Maybe only keep Shanahan. That's it. Just my opinion. That's why this year is very crucial.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

This is my thread. You're not allowed to bump it irresponsibly. LOL.

Remember, this is the year we should be matching their production from last year if Lynch had done enough. Let's revisit after the season.

Go Niners!

Actually this is the year where they should be matching their production in 2017 since that was Pace's third season as GM. In 2017 the Bears went 5-11 so I'm hopeful that the 49ers can top that.

They easily should eclipse that and that would be terrific!

The OP outlined the myriad of comparisons as to why I originally started this little project.

You define a rebuild the moment a new GM walks in the door and I tend to define it more on the backend...when a GM finally acquires a FQB (that roster snapshot in time - comparing the rosters then and going forward) as that's when GM's tend to get more serious about winning and show more urgency.

But even that's not apples to apples here because Lynch has a 6 year contract so even when they were incredibly fortunate to get a FQB in year 2, we didn't see the same Pace-like urgency like Pace showed when he acquired Trubisky. Had Lynch had a 3 year contract and he acquired JG in year 2, that next offseason may have been more Pace-like aggressive.

While a fun exercise, it's very difficult to find two teams to compare apples to apples rebuilds at the same exact time both with their FQB's in the building, similar cap space, etc.

Chicago was the closest I could find ATT in terms of line items...number of quality adopted players, draft slots, cap space, FQB acquired, etc. but in the end, both GM's have very different strategies and philosophies and the roster builds have followed that model breaking up this little project.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
bro......we don't have that kind of flexibility.....I mean from a financial standpoint, yes you are right. They can cut Garappolo with little cap hit.

But if Garappolo is bad enough to actually get canned, then Jed is gonna fire this whole front office. Maybe only keep Shanahan. That's it. Just my opinion. That's why this year is very crucial.

Would the Bears do the same since they traded up to get Mitch?

Trubisky and the bears could be the next Blake Bortles and the Jaguars. Niners meanwhile are well balanced offense and defense. Front 7's are comparable. Another difference is Niners have really nice depth throughout the roster. Kudos to Lynch, who is himself growing into the position.

they sent a spy from chicago to ruin our field goals.

Bears ain't doing s**t this year in the NFC it's probably going to take a minimum of 11 wins to make the playoffs in the NFC This year and Trubisky is massively overhyped

Originally posted by OGNiner89:

Bears ain't doing s**t this year in the NFC it's probably going to take a minimum of 11 wins to make the playoffs in the NFC This year and Trubisky is massively overhyped

Whos overhyping him? But ya, they will be lucky to make the playoffs.

Bears wish they had a squad like ours!

This d has a chance to be the best d since Seattle's elite d that won them the sb