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Chicago Bears vs. San Francisco 49ers Rebuilding Plan
Dec 1, 2019 at 6:20 AM
- TheXFactor
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To be fair Kyle/Lynch chose Jimmy. Nagy had to roll with him when he got hired after Trubisky's rookie year.
Dec 1, 2019 at 6:25 AM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:Bears would be a playoff team if trubisky were less limited. Allen Robinson would be a top 5 wr with a good qb aND their defense would be way better if their offense could kill clock and give them a rest.
Lesson is don't hitch your wagon to QBs who are mediocre ex. Winston, trubisky, mariota, Goff etc... as soon as teams clue in on taking away the slot receiver and running game by stacking the box it's over.
Agreed. With no 1st round picks going to be hard to get a QB in draft or trades
Dec 1, 2019 at 8:17 AM
- BayToBrazil
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by qnnhan7:This thread and the Kyle Shanahan vs Sean McVay thread lol
The same people so giddy about 9ers losing and making comments on McVay and Nagys greatness have gotten awfully quiet.
This thread has gone from depressing to fun.
Dec 2, 2019 at 4:54 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:thank god OP isn't running the show
What did the OP say?
Dec 2, 2019 at 7:28 AM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:thank god OP isn't running the show
What did the OP say?
That Baalke is a top 5 GM and Tomsula is a great teacher.
Dec 2, 2019 at 10:29 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:thank god OP isn't running the show
What did the OP say?
That Baalke is a top 5 GM and Tomsula is a great teacher.
I mean, everybody knows that! LOL
Dec 2, 2019 at 3:51 PM
- Viperboy
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Bears left 3 bad A quarterbacks on the board and took Trubisky .....this kinda s**t will set you back for years, particularly without back to back first round picks
Dec 2, 2019 at 4:13 PM
- Niners_D
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
thank god OP isn't running the show
What did the OP say?
That Baalke is a top 5 GM and Tomsula is a great teacher.
Tomsula the D-line coach or Tomsula the HC?
Dec 2, 2019 at 5:11 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NCommand:Given that the Bears started rebuilding the same time we did (2017), I thought this would be a fun topic to track over the years. ShanaLynch seem poised to "build their way out of this through the draft." I'm much more partial to the Bears plan (balance of draft + younger free agents) per my annual off season plans (for us).
Chicago Bears:
So on offense, they drafted 10 players and added 6 free agents. On defense, they drafted 9 and added 5 free agents.
16 'starters' were added on offense and defense in 2017 & 2018.
Their average age 25.6 puts them as one of the 10th youngest teams currently. They only have two players making over $9.6M (Robinson & Mack). They currently have $19.3M in cap space before the expected $10M+ increase.
Currently, their collective defense, at a 77.5 average PFF grade, is outstanding (Fangio + Donatell). Their offense, is naturally, behind them but rising each week (Nagy).
Year 2 of the rebuild:
Current record: 7-3 / 1st Place
Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 1st Place Division
Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win
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It's hard to compare strategies given our perpetual injuries (had to add more 'starters') esp. with the loss of Jimmy Garoppolo but here is your snapshot in time:
San Francisco 49ers:
So on offense, they drafted 10 players and added 8 free agents. On defense, they drafted 9 and added 4 free agents.
33 'starters' were added on offense and defense in 2017 & 2018.
Their average age 25.9 puts them as one of the 10th youngest teams currently. They only have one player making over $10M (Staley). They currently have a projected carryover cap total of $65,419,090 for 2019.
Currently, the collective defense, at a 58.2 average PFF grade, is very poor. Their offense at 71.1 is above average.
Year 2 of the rebuild:
Current record: 2-8 / Last Place
Projected record: 3-13 / #1 Draft Pick / Last Place Division
Playoff prediction: None
you called it bro, the bears look amazing and are geniuses for drafting trubisky.
Dec 2, 2019 at 5:38 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:you called it bro, the bears look amazing and are geniuses for drafting trubisky.
Literally, has absolutely nothing to do with Trubisky...or the point of the OP. That's a special twist.
That said, I said did say throughout this thread that they'd ultimately go as Trubisky did and isn't THAT the truth.
Dec 2, 2019 at 5:39 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Niners_D:Originally posted by TheGore49er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:thank god OP isn't running the show
What did the OP say?
That Baalke is a top 5 GM and Tomsula is a great teacher.
Tomsula the D-line coach or Tomsula the HC?
Does it matter? He's a legend!!!
Dec 12, 2019 at 6:36 AM
- NCommand
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How is this team 7-6 with their HC/QB? Real question.
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM
- Memphis9er
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This thread is
Dec 12, 2019 at 12:08 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
How is this team 7-6 with their HC/QB? Real question.
Do you think they should be better? Mitch sucks & that OL isn't very good (even though they spent cash/picks).
Dec 12, 2019 at 12:48 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:This thread is
Not really. Bears had a great season last year and if it wasnt for their QB regressing they would've had another one. 7 and 6 still isnt bad. Youre making the Bears sound like they are the Dolphins.