Aaron Rodgers, QB, NY Jets

I think Teddy Bridgewater good for the Jets, but don't think any aspiring playoff team like the Lions gonna trade away their backup qb due to injury possibility

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TWD_Fan:
The New York Jets are friggin cursed! I mean, I thought they overpaid as soon as I got word of the trade, but I never expected things to end up the way they did. And with Aaron Rodgers' age (39 going on 40?), this injury might be a career-ender.

It could be that astroturf surface they play on. That stuff is so hard, it's like playing on rubberized concrete. That stuff should be outlawed. 49ers play on a astroturf surface in this next rams game. I am dreading the injury 🪲🐜 that might happen to bite *both* teams this weekend.

I don't know what type of surface they have in LA. It's a newer field so hopefully it's a better artificial surface than NY has. I was watching a college game on Saturday and the commentators said the new field they installed felt and looked like real grass. I don't know what kind it was. Currently the NFL has 18 artificial turf fields of various types.

Real grass has a certain give to it, and the earth underneath it, has a certain give to it also. Hard to really replicate those things on an artificial surface. There is some new technology, for sure, and the surface's are getting closer to real grass, but with 18 (as you said) stadiums with turf, it's not of uniform technology or quality either. I"m betting the Jets surface may be one of the older tech artificial surfaces out there.

I would argue that non uniformity alone adds stress to the body. Because you muscles and tendons don't have consistency to react and learn on etc so it can be different every week. With todays technology and the fact every single franchise is worth a literal fortune there is zero reason not to have the best grass ever.

Well said, the NFL needs to step in and make all teams have grass or if turf is needed NFL can force them to install what they want not what the teams want.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think Teddy Bridgewater good for the Jets, but don't think any aspiring playoff team like the Lions gonna trade away their backup qb due to injury possibility

Shannon Sharpe through out Tom Brady's name this morning. If I were Jets I'd explore that option.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Steven A through out Tom Brady's name this morning. If I were Jets I'd explore that option.

Belichick would lose his damn mind if that happened.

Originally posted by Jcool:

I just spoke with Colin Kaepernick, who tells me his agent has reached out to the #Jets about his desire to make an NFL return. Kaepernick remains on the West Coast working out. pic.twitter.com/4yQ0FASqBh

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) September 12, 2023

I too reached out to the Jets this morning to let them know that my services are available and my arm is well rested.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Steven A through out Tom Brady's name this morning. If I were Jets I'd explore that option.

Belichick would lose his damn mind if that happened.

Cant believe Tom would want to come out of retirement to play behind that offensive line. Who knows with Brady though.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Well said, the NFL needs to step in and make all teams have grass or if turf is needed NFL can force them to install what they want not what the teams want.

"The NFL" is the owners and too many of them are cheap jack wagons. They are switching several of the stadiums up to real grass for the World Cup so it clearly can be done, they just don't want to.

Imagine if the players had a union that wasn't complete b******t. This would have been a crucial issue to address in collective bargaining, maybe even go on strike over.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
is zach wilson that unserviceable? he was meh last night but they still won

The real problem is the Jets o line. Any QB back there is gonna be in trouble

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Well said, the NFL needs to step in and make all teams have grass or if turf is needed NFL can force them to install what they want not what the teams want.

"The NFL" is the owners and too many of them are cheap jack wagons. They are switching several of the stadiums up to real grass for the World Cup so it clearly can be done, they just don't want to.

Imagine if the players had a union that wasn't complete b******t. This would have been a crucial issue to address in collective bargaining, maybe even go on strike over.

Field fairy players in Europe have more pull on NFL stadiums than football players.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Well said, the NFL needs to step in and make all teams have grass or if turf is needed NFL can force them to install what they want not what the teams want.

"The NFL" is the owners and too many of them are cheap jack wagons. They are switching several of the stadiums up to real grass for the World Cup so it clearly can be done, they just don't want to.

Imagine if the players had a union that wasn't complete b******t. This would have been a crucial issue to address in collective bargaining, maybe even go on strike over.

I can't imagine that real grass is that expensive to maintain, especially when you look at the prices of turf these days.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Steven A through out Tom Brady's name this morning. If I were Jets I'd explore that option.

Belichick would lose his damn mind if that happened.

Which would be reason enough for Tom to give the Jets a DISCOUNT DOUBLE CHECK! Buuuut I still don't see it happening.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
is zach wilson that unserviceable? he was meh last night but they still won

The real problem is the Jets o line. Any QB back there is gonna be in trouble

Yeah the tackles are rough and it's a reason I wasn't buying NYJ this year, the D does look legit, and Hall was moving much better than I expected off the injury.

Wilson can't see the field. He threw it to a LB right between the numbers. Everything he does is not in rhythm, the play calls for the ball to be out, and he's holding it cuz he doesn't see it well. Then he has to start running around like a chicken without his head, and every play turns to a scramble drill. It's hard to watch QB play.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TWD_Fan:
The New York Jets are friggin cursed! I mean, I thought they overpaid as soon as I got word of the trade, but I never expected things to end up the way they did. And with Aaron Rodgers' age (39 going on 40?), this injury might be a career-ender.

It could be that astroturf surface they play on. That stuff is so hard, it's like playing on rubberized concrete. That stuff should be outlawed. 49ers play on a astroturf surface in this next rams game. I am dreading the injury 🪲🐜 that might happen to bite *both* teams this weekend.

I don't know what type of surface they have in LA. It's a newer field so hopefully it's a better artificial surface than NY has. I was watching a college game on Saturday and the commentators said the new field they installed felt and looked like real grass. I don't know what kind it was. Currently the NFL has 18 artificial turf fields of various types.

Real grass has a certain give to it, and the earth underneath it, has a certain give to it also. Hard to really replicate those things on an artificial surface. There is some new technology, for sure, and the surface's are getting closer to real grass, but with 18 (as you said) stadiums with turf, it's not of uniform technology or quality either. I"m betting the Jets surface may be one of the older tech artificial surfaces out there.

I would argue that non uniformity alone adds stress to the body. Because you muscles and tendons don't have consistency to react and learn on etc so it can be different every week. With todays technology and the fact every single franchise is worth a literal fortune there is zero reason not to have the best grass ever.

Well said, the NFL needs to step in and make all teams have grass or if turf is needed NFL can force them to install what they want not what the teams want.

It's not just the non uniformity, but how do trainers and shoe companies account for how 'sticky' the surface is?
This is the stadium that Bosa and Solly went down during the same quarter. Then was it the week later Saquon tears his ACL on the same grass. There were a few articles on how much traction that grass has or had and that worked on it.
As others have said with real grass if you have some moisture on it, it will give. If you have a 300lb lineman tugging down a 220lb QB and their combined force (F=MxA) translated down to the few cleats between the ACL (or Achilles) and the ground, the clay below the grass compresses and gives. On the carpet blades even with rubber infill it just can't do it from my observation.
Running and walking on sport fields watching kids games it's at times noticeably grippy and hot as a mofo.
NFL owners need to ban it and stop using players as test subjects. I'm glad we've done the right thing, and we remember when Harbs took the team off the fields when he thought even the real sod was crappy.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
is zach wilson that unserviceable? he was meh last night but they still won

The real problem is the Jets o line. Any QB back there is gonna be in trouble

Yeah the tackles are rough and it's a reason I wasn't buying NYJ this year, the D does look legit, and Hall was moving much better than I expected off the injury.

Wilson can't see the field. He threw it to a LB right between the numbers. Everything he does is not in rhythm, the play calls for the ball to be out, and he's holding it cuz he doesn't see it well. Then he has to start running around like a chicken without his head, and every play turns to a scramble drill. It's hard to watch QB play.

Zach Wilson definitely plays like a young Wish.com version of Russel Wilson.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
I can't imagine that real grass is that expensive to maintain, especially when you look at the prices of turf these days.

In the grand scheme of things, it's not. But its cheaper to have turf when switching events, going from football games to concerts...etc. in this case the Jets owner screwed himself over because a Jets team making a playoff run with Rodgers at QB was going to be an a massive cash draw.