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Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Honestly, he probably already did that, like I mentioned earlier, he blew it against Arizona on the blocked punt. That was him. Without that, we probably win. But it was week 1, so we didn't have enough to go off of yet.. Now we've seen him stink for 3 straight games.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Honestly, he probably already did that, like I mentioned earlier, he blew it against Arizona on the blocked punt. That was him. Without that, we probably win. But it was week 1, so we didn't have enough to go off of yet.. Now we've seen him stink for 3 straight games.


Oh I didn't know the snap was bad I thought it was Dante johnson for his poor blocking technique.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
goddam that was harsh

nature of the business.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Honestly, he probably already did that, like I mentioned earlier, he blew it against Arizona on the blocked punt. That was him. Without that, we probably win. But it was week 1, so we didn't have enough to go off of yet.. Now we've seen him stink for 3 straight games.


Oh I didn't know the snap was bad I thought it was Dante johnson for his poor blocking technique.

ARI ran a stunt and Nelson didn't recognize it, which put DJohnson in a 2v1 scenario.
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Niners99:
You think that over the last 100 years of NFL football you're the first one to suggest that using a C instead of a LS might be possible? The reason they employ a LS specialist is because its a special skill that must be worked on full time. Its not something that a C can do on the side.

Its a specific skill to snap a ball through your legs in perfect position for a holder or punter to catch it. Skule filled the role in a pinch, but he's not going to be able to take the amount of reps to perfect the art while attending all the OL meetings and working on his blocking technique.

No, of course I don't think I'm the first to think that lol. I still don't think this "special skill" requires 1.5hrs of practice every freaking day. Look It's just a discussion point. On a team that loves and preaches versatility, if our WRs can learn and execute the playbook of all 3 spots, TEs can fill FB and vice versa, DEs can play inside and out etc. You get my drift. Brunskill learned and played all 3 of OT, G, and C.

It's a LOT harder than you think to get to the level of these guys lmao. I can guarantee that every single NFL long snapper has been dedicated to that position for years. There's obviously a reason that people like Skule aren't just filling in on the side.

You mean except for when he did exactly that this past game? And did it better than the guy that got all the reps in practice and has been dedicated to it for years? Long Snappers live on the red light district in the NFL. Look what the dude we signed today been through already. Guess what, we signed him today and he's snapping for us on Sunday
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Honestly, he probably already did that, like I mentioned earlier, he blew it against Arizona on the blocked punt. That was him. Without that, we probably win. But it was week 1, so we didn't have enough to go off of yet.. Now we've seen him stink for 3 straight games.


Oh I didn't know the snap was bad I thought it was Dante johnson for his poor blocking technique.

ARI ran a stunt and Nelson didn't recognize it, which put DJohnson in a 2v1 scenario.


^ This. Kyle already said it wasn't Dontae's fault. Initially when the play happened I thought maybe DJ, but after the replay, it was very obvious Nelson completely blew it on picking up his block.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Sep 30, 2020 at 1:04 PM ]
Feel for the dude. You could tell he was hard on himself. But let's be honest...we'd lose our sh*t if he ever screwed up a snap on a game winner.

At that position your room for error is basically none. Can't have bad snaps.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Niners99:
You think that over the last 100 years of NFL football you're the first one to suggest that using a C instead of a LS might be possible? The reason they employ a LS specialist is because its a special skill that must be worked on full time. Its not something that a C can do on the side.

Its a specific skill to snap a ball through your legs in perfect position for a holder or punter to catch it. Skule filled the role in a pinch, but he's not going to be able to take the amount of reps to perfect the art while attending all the OL meetings and working on his blocking technique.

No, of course I don't think I'm the first to think that lol. I still don't think this "special skill" requires 1.5hrs of practice every freaking day. Look It's just a discussion point. On a team that loves and preaches versatility, if our WRs can learn and execute the playbook of all 3 spots, TEs can fill FB and vice versa, DEs can play inside and out etc. You get my drift. Brunskill learned and played all 3 of OT, G, and C.

It's a LOT harder than you think to get to the level of these guys lmao. I can guarantee that every single NFL long snapper has been dedicated to that position for years. There's obviously a reason that people like Skule aren't just filling in on the side.

You mean except for when he did exactly that this past game? And did it better than the guy that got all the reps in practice and has been dedicated to it for years? Long Snappers live on the red light district in the NFL. Look what the dude we signed today been through already. Guess what, we signed him today and he's snapping for us on Sunday

LS needs to be athletic enough to run down for punt coverage/containing the returning/downing the ball. I would not want 300+ pound Skule running up and down the field on punts.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Niners99:
You think that over the last 100 years of NFL football you're the first one to suggest that using a C instead of a LS might be possible? The reason they employ a LS specialist is because its a special skill that must be worked on full time. Its not something that a C can do on the side.

Its a specific skill to snap a ball through your legs in perfect position for a holder or punter to catch it. Skule filled the role in a pinch, but he's not going to be able to take the amount of reps to perfect the art while attending all the OL meetings and working on his blocking technique.

No, of course I don't think I'm the first to think that lol. I still don't think this "special skill" requires 1.5hrs of practice every freaking day. Look It's just a discussion point. On a team that loves and preaches versatility, if our WRs can learn and execute the playbook of all 3 spots, TEs can fill FB and vice versa, DEs can play inside and out etc. You get my drift. Brunskill learned and played all 3 of OT, G, and C.

It's a LOT harder than you think to get to the level of these guys lmao. I can guarantee that every single NFL long snapper has been dedicated to that position for years. There's obviously a reason that people like Skule aren't just filling in on the side.

You mean except for when he did exactly that this past game? And did it better than the guy that got all the reps in practice and has been dedicated to it for years? Long Snappers live on the red light district in the NFL. Look what the dude we signed today been through already. Guess what, we signed him today and he's snapping for us on Sunday

LS needs to be athletic enough to run down for punt coverage/containing the returning/downing the ball. I would not want 300+ pound Skule running up and down the field on punts.

Yes they do, but what does the rest of the line do after the ball is punted?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by raywm3:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Release him for one bad game?

It wasn't just one bad snap. It was catastrophically bad. Like a complete mental breakdown. Anytime you have 7 consecutive bad snaps, it's tough for them to look at that and feel comfortable moving forward with that. It sucks, but I do understand it.

I think they know that many games could be close in the coming weeks and we can't afford any mistakes from the snapper that cost us.

Was it really 7 consecutive snaps? I'm with the others, feels short sighted for one bad game but I don't know what else might be going on with him. I mean if you cut a kicker for every bad game, we would have cut Gould a couple times. Would've cut everyone at some point.

I think you have to look at the previous games too. A lot of kicks have been nearly blocked and snap speed and accuracy could be an issue that we didn't notice as much until it became as egregiously bad as it was on Sunday. The blocked punt in week 1 was 100% on Nelson.

Then this makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Eh. Too late. I'd say he cost us AZ.
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Eh. Too late. I'd say he cost us AZ.

meh, who knows what would have happened if we got the punt off.

but I do know what would have happened if we were able to run it in at the goaline. 6 points that's what.
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Eh. Too late. I'd say he cost us AZ.

meh, who knows what would have happened if we got the punt off.

but I do know what would have happened if we were able to run it in at the goaline. 6 points that's what.

Or if Jimmy could hit a wide open Bourne.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Niners99:
You think that over the last 100 years of NFL football you're the first one to suggest that using a C instead of a LS might be possible? The reason they employ a LS specialist is because its a special skill that must be worked on full time. Its not something that a C can do on the side.

Its a specific skill to snap a ball through your legs in perfect position for a holder or punter to catch it. Skule filled the role in a pinch, but he's not going to be able to take the amount of reps to perfect the art while attending all the OL meetings and working on his blocking technique.

No, of course I don't think I'm the first to think that lol. I still don't think this "special skill" requires 1.5hrs of practice every freaking day. Look It's just a discussion point. On a team that loves and preaches versatility, if our WRs can learn and execute the playbook of all 3 spots, TEs can fill FB and vice versa, DEs can play inside and out etc. You get my drift. Brunskill learned and played all 3 of OT, G, and C.

It's a LOT harder than you think to get to the level of these guys lmao. I can guarantee that every single NFL long snapper has been dedicated to that position for years. There's obviously a reason that people like Skule aren't just filling in on the side.

You mean except for when he did exactly that this past game? And did it better than the guy that got all the reps in practice and has been dedicated to it for years? Long Snappers live on the red light district in the NFL. Look what the dude we signed today been through already. Guess what, we signed him today and he's snapping for us on Sunday

LS needs to be athletic enough to run down for punt coverage/containing the returning/downing the ball. I would not want 300+ pound Skule running up and down the field on punts.

Yes they do, but what does the rest of the line do after the ball is punted?

I am not sure what your point is. That's kind of like saying, "Why not have a backup offensive lineman with soccer background be the kicker? It saves a roster spot, and I mean, even on kickoffs, what do the rest of the guys do after it's kicked?"
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good job cutting him before he cost a game.

Eh. Too late. I'd say he cost us AZ.

meh, who knows what would have happened if we got the punt off.

but I do know what would have happened if we were able to run it in at the goaline. 6 points that's what.

Or if Jimmy could hit a wide open Bourne.

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