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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Why cant we work out a deal with him where we restructure his salary to like 1.5m for 15 years then he retires and we relinquish his rights so he can walk free and do what he wants. Annual payment for him, dramatic cap savings for us.

What's wrong with that.

Not allowed.

We could resign tomlinson and jones and kwan for what we are paying this bum to sit in a hot tub.

Definitely two of the three. I'll just be glad when this is over. Just eat the dead money and be done with it.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Why cant we work out a deal with him where we restructure his salary to like 1.5m for 15 years then he retires and we relinquish his rights so he can walk free and do what he wants. Annual payment for him, dramatic cap savings for us.

What's wrong with that.

dude, I get it, it sucks that we had money tied up in a guy that is injured and can't play. Obviously, the benefit of hindsight tells us that it was mistake to sign him to that extension. Can't go back in time and fix that though. The reality is that his contract made it virtually impossible to cut him. Does it make sense to eat $20m or $18.7m or $14.4m for nothing? That's what his dead cap hit would have been if we cut him in 20, 21, or right now(Pre-June).

Even now, its not an easy decision to make. We still have to eat $9.5m and only get $2.5m cap savings. So really, the decision is: give up on him to save $2.5m or pay him $2.5m and hope he's healthy. All that other money, the 49ers are already on the hook for. Its a sunk cost.

Im not making the argument to keep him, just laying the facts out.

You don't understand how NFL contracts work. Even if you could extend him for 15 yrs at 1.5m, when he is released or cut, ALL of that pro-rated money accelerates to the current year.

The whole idea of the pro-ration is just for accounting reasons. In the simplest terms, if you signed a 5 yr contract with a $50m signing bonus, you get that lump sum upfront. The NFL just allows teams to spread that over the 5 yrs so for cap reasons, it'd count for $10m/yr plus whatever your base salary is. Its not like you're getting a check every yr for $10m from your signing bonus. Roster, workout bonuses, etc are a diff story. I just wanted to give a simple example.
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The Bobby bonilla of the nfl lol

Damn I still have his rookie card, him and Barry on the pirates.

Lol the Mets still pay him annually.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The Bobby bonilla of the nfl lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The Bobby bonilla of the nfl lol


hehe i fully expect this years April fools article to be Dee installed a BIONIC spine and we signed him to a ten year extension!
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Why cant we work out a deal with him where we restructure his salary to like 1.5m for 15 years then he retires and we relinquish his rights so he can walk free and do what he wants. Annual payment for him, dramatic cap savings for us.

What's wrong with that.

A Bobby Bonilla deal
can he just retire already? f**k
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The Bobby bonilla of the nfl lol


Now that's funny lol
The problem with keeping Ford is that we're not playing with 53 people. We're playing with 52. Which is a problem week in week out
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The problem with keeping Ford is that we're not playing with 53 people. We're playing with 52. Which is a problem week in week out

I get that, but we haven't lost a player as a result of keeping Ford. I prefer to cut ties now but I get why they want to minimize the dead cap space.
What's more frustrating...seeing this or Jimmy's trade value thread continue to be at the top of the board?
Originally posted by NCommand:
What's more frustrating...seeing this or Jimmy's trade value thread continue to be at the top of the board?

This! Ford was a gamble, it didn't work out because of injury, move on and build the roster with a younger talent or FA
We need to figure out creative ways to minimize the impact of his contract. If its cut him after June 1, so be it.

I think some combination of extension/restructure/retirement -- within the cba -- might help.

What about trade? Jimmy and dee straight up for a third rounder.

Win. 50m in cap space right there.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
We need to figure out creative ways to minimize the impact of his contract. If its cut him after June 1, so be it.

I think some combination of extension/restructure/retirement -- within the cba -- might help.

What about trade? Jimmy and dee straight up for a third rounder.

Win. 50m in cap space right there.

Someone has to be willing. What market is there for a pass rusher with a huge cap hit that will give you maybe...100 snaps for the year? We sadly have to eat this. I'd rather just end it now. If the team chooses to keep him...eh. I'm over it though. Can't be emotionally involved with this situation anymore.
Originally posted by irishluder:
Originally posted by NCommand:
What's more frustrating...seeing this or Jimmy's trade value thread continue to be at the top of the board?

This! Ford was a gamble, it didn't work out because of injury, move on and build the roster with a younger talent or FA

Redoing his contract made it dam near impossible to move off of him
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