NFL hopes ban on Oklahoma drill trickles down to all levels of football

If there's anyone who ever had technique taught to them during Oklahoma or Bull in the Ring drills, by all means, say something.

I went through those drills for years and technique was never once mentioned in them.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

If there's anyone who ever had technique taught to them during Oklahoma or Bull in the Ring drills, by all means, say something.

I went through those drills for years and technique was never once mentioned in them.

Not taught, practiced/executed.

Wow so now i am confused as to what is considered an oklahoma drill. This stupid ass s**t was the first video of oklahoma drill youtube search.





This was #2. A lot closer but still not what i did or would do.






Here is closer to the level of "violence" their should be.



And here is closer, but ours was 1 RB and 2 OL vs 1 DL and 1 LB

And i have learned the 1st one is a hamburger drill? Stupidest s**t ever.

The oklahoma drill i was coached, it basically isolated run defense. And the play was coming to you. Basically a perfect rep, It was about executing your zone(the cones).

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
If there's anyone who ever had technique taught to them during Oklahoma or Bull in the Ring drills, by all means, say something.

I went through those drills for years and technique was never once mentioned in them.

Predictably, this thread is filled with people who can't take a nanosecond to consider whether the drill has utility or not -- they're too busy reflexively knee-jerking with responses like "they're ruining the game!" or "they're pussifiying our society". These same people would've probably been outraged 50 years ago when the game moved away from leather helmets.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

If there's anyone who ever had technique taught to them during Oklahoma or Bull in the Ring drills, by all means, say something.

I went through those drills for years and technique was never once mentioned in them.

Predictably, this thread is filled with people who can't take a nanosecond to consider whether the drill has utility or not -- they're too busy reflexively knee-jerking with responses like "they're ruining the game!" or "they're pussifiying our society". These same people would've probably been outraged 50 years ago when the game moved away from leather helmets.

Lol so true

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

If there's anyone who ever had technique taught to them during Oklahoma or Bull in the Ring drills, by all means, say something.

I went through those drills for years and technique was never once mentioned in them.

Not taught, practiced/executed.

Wow so now i am confused as to what is considered an oklahoma drill. This stupid ass s**t was the first video of oklahoma drill youtube search.





This was #2. A lot closer but still not what i did or would do.






Here is closer to the level of "violence" their should be.



And here is closer, but ours was 1 RB and 2 OL vs 1 DL and 1 LB

They all get called Oklahoma.

Regarding taught versus practiced/executed, my entire experience with all of these drills was that technique had practically nothing to do with it. It was the whole team and coaches standing around yelling variants on "kick his @ss" and hooting and hollering.

All the teaching, practice, and execution happened in position drills and team drills.

This stuff was just sprinkled in sometimes. It's 60 people standing around doing nothing and yelling while two or three people crash into each other. It was just a remarkably bad use of practice time.

My son's first and only year of tackle football when he was 7 yrs old was a horrible experience for him and for me as a father. The coach was all about yelling and forcing the boys to run as punishment. I think they ran more than they practiced because, as boys that age do, they got silly at times and would have to run. That dude did the lying down "OK" drill and didn't care about matching the kids up by size. He ended up matching my son up with one of the older and hardest hitting kids on the team. I wasn't there but my wife,...let's just say it didn't turn out well as my son was clearly shaken up by it. I had to send coach an email about about protecting the players. The same hard hitting kid decleated two players in one play in practice but it was with the top portion of his helmet with his head fully down. This dickwad coach got excited when that happened with one of those 'you got knocked the f**k out" type of noise when he should have took that boy aside and showed him how to properly tackle. That boy ended up getting a concussion in a game because he went head first head down, missed the player and hit top of his head into the ground.

Team went 0-10 that season. Parents requested that coach not return. Ended up with a coach who thought teaching the game was more important than making these kids crash into each other. Team went 9-1 following year.

Fortunately, that didn't ruin it for my son. He hasn't played since then but he has been begging to play since then. Told him 7th or 8th grade. Momma still says no though.

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/21/football-scary-injury-overshadows-freedoms-win-over-antioch/

2 chopper evacs in one night in the bay area .

Originally posted by Joecool:
My son's first and only year of tackle football when he was 7 yrs old was a horrible experience for him and for me as a father. The coach was all about yelling and forcing the boys to run as punishment. I think they ran more than they practiced because, as boys that age do, they got silly at times and would have to run. That dude did the lying down "OK" drill and didn't care about matching the kids up by size. He ended up matching my son up with one of the older and hardest hitting kids on the team. I wasn't there but my wife,...let's just say it didn't turn out well as my son was clearly shaken up by it. I had to send coach an email about about protecting the players. The same hard hitting kid decleated two players in one play in practice but it was with the top portion of his helmet with his head fully down. This dickwad coach got excited when that happened with one of those 'you got knocked the f**k out" type of noise when he should have took that boy aside and showed him how to properly tackle. That boy ended up getting a concussion in a game because he went head first head down, missed the player and hit top of his head into the ground.

Team went 0-10 that season. Parents requested that coach not return. Ended up with a coach who thought teaching the game was more important than making these kids crash into each other. Team went 9-1 following year.

Fortunately, that didn't ruin it for my son. He hasn't played since then but he has been begging to play since then. Told him 7th or 8th grade. Momma still says no though.

So, were you there are did your wife watch and give you all of these details? I almost never see wives watching whats going on during youth football practices so this is kind of fishy to me.

So are you telling me you continued to let your son play for this coach, even after seeing spearing with the crown during practices & games?

Hard hitting kids tend to get this reaction from the softer kids' parents. Football isn't for everyone, funny how parents seem to sign their kids up for youth football to get them tougher then when they see toughness they want to make the game tougher lol.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/21/football-scary-injury-overshadows-freedoms-win-over-antioch/

2 chopper evacs in one night in the bay area .

There are thousands of kids and adults playing & practicing everyday, injuries will happen. Some more serious than others...

Prayers for these kids.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Joecool:

My son's first and only year of tackle football when he was 7 yrs old was a horrible experience for him and for me as a father. The coach was all about yelling and forcing the boys to run as punishment. I think they ran more than they practiced because, as boys that age do, they got silly at times and would have to run. That dude did the lying down "OK" drill and didn't care about matching the kids up by size. He ended up matching my son up with one of the older and hardest hitting kids on the team. I wasn't there but my wife,...let's just say it didn't turn out well as my son was clearly shaken up by it. I had to send coach an email about about protecting the players. The same hard hitting kid decleated two players in one play in practice but it was with the top portion of his helmet with his head fully down. This dickwad coach got excited when that happened with one of those 'you got knocked the f**k out" type of noise when he should have took that boy aside and showed him how to properly tackle. That boy ended up getting a concussion in a game because he went head first head down, missed the player and hit top of his head into the ground.

Team went 0-10 that season. Parents requested that coach not return. Ended up with a coach who thought teaching the game was more important than making these kids crash into each other. Team went 9-1 following year.

Fortunately, that didn't ruin it for my son. He hasn't played since then but he has been begging to play since then. Told him 7th or 8th grade. Momma still says no though.

So, were you there are did your wife watch and give you all of these details? I almost never see wives watching whats going on during youth football practices so this is kind of fishy to me.

So are you telling me you continued to let your son play for this coach, even after seeing spearing with the crown during practices & games?

Hard hitting kids tend to get this reaction from the softer kids' parents. Football isn't for everyone, funny how parents seem to sign their kids up for youth football to get them tougher then when they see toughness they want to make the game tougher lol.

Lmao. Nice fail on this post. How can you be so ignorant? And lol at the wife comment...

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Joecool:

My son's first and only year of tackle football when he was 7 yrs old was a horrible experience for him and for me as a father. The coach was all about yelling and forcing the boys to run as punishment. I think they ran more than they practiced because, as boys that age do, they got silly at times and would have to run. That dude did the lying down "OK" drill and didn't care about matching the kids up by size. He ended up matching my son up with one of the older and hardest hitting kids on the team. I wasn't there but my wife,...let's just say it didn't turn out well as my son was clearly shaken up by it. I had to send coach an email about about protecting the players. The same hard hitting kid decleated two players in one play in practice but it was with the top portion of his helmet with his head fully down. This dickwad coach got excited when that happened with one of those 'you got knocked the f**k out" type of noise when he should have took that boy aside and showed him how to properly tackle. That boy ended up getting a concussion in a game because he went head first head down, missed the player and hit top of his head into the ground.

Team went 0-10 that season. Parents requested that coach not return. Ended up with a coach who thought teaching the game was more important than making these kids crash into each other. Team went 9-1 following year.

Fortunately, that didn't ruin it for my son. He hasn't played since then but he has been begging to play since then. Told him 7th or 8th grade. Momma still says no though.

So, were you there are did your wife watch and give you all of these details? I almost never see wives watching whats going on during youth football practices so this is kind of fishy to me.

So are you telling me you continued to let your son play for this coach, even after seeing spearing with the crown during practices & games?

Hard hitting kids tend to get this reaction from the softer kids' parents. Football isn't for everyone, funny how parents seem to sign their kids up for youth football to get them tougher then when they see toughness they want to make the game tougher lol.

I wasn't there but my wife was. The other parents confirmed as well. Other parents also complained to the Board members that this coach is not doing a good job. One of the player' dad is an ex NFL player and he gave this coach a verbal lashing on the second to last week of the season.

Like I said, my kid still loves football but the age range is 6-9 and the coach must protect the players front themselves at that age. It should be about teaching the game and fundamentals, not about learning how to be a battering ram.

Toughness isn't making the team run for a third of the practice only to be unprepared in a game and go 1-9. This coach had the wrong idea about what football really is at this age.

And yes, I was there when the coach cheered on a kid who used the top of his head as a battering ram. Quite a few dads were saying that coach needs to teach that kid how to tackle or he's going to get hurt. Him getting hurt is exactly what happened and that coach is to blame.

Kids growing up now a days probably think the game is better now. They are wrong

Millennials are killing the game. I guess glorydayz nailed it. Football is not for everyone. Of your to soft - or your children + step away. But nah, if my son is too soft, the game needs to soften. That's the tolerance you always hear people talking about.

And yes, there are bad coaches all around but that's not the point. Power equals weight times speed. If you are too light, be faster and you won't shaken up.