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The 49ers should try cheating.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
The 49ers should try cheating.

We used to, when we were winning championships...

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

I just saw cell phone footage from Bengals security.
It is hilarious and damming.
The videographer acted totally guilty amd the Bengals security knew exactly what was happening.


The only defense I have heard for BB is that there is no way he would do the same thing he was busted for before. That is a weak defense.

This a huge game for BB, if he would've lost this game, that would've been it for his career. Makes sense for BB to put his whole reputation on the line to beat the great Bengals.

He's done it before there is no reason to think he wouldn't do it again. He already has the reputation as a cheater after Spygate and deflategate. His reputation won't change because he got caught again.
The Bangles cut them red-handed.

I think spygate was dumb as well, and deflate gate is one of the biggest jokes. They are up by 30 points and then they start deflating footballs? Makes sense. But lets even say he cheated in those, you cant compare SB and playoffs to some meaningless regular season again against a 1 and 11 team.

I'll believe he cheated here if this wasnt an isolated incident and its found out that this tv crew was taping other teams as well. Till then, this is just the media making a big deal out nothing bc its the Pats.

It is who he the Pats and BB are.

They got caught red handed breaking the rules by filming the new staff of the Bengals for ever. They weren't even filming the scout. It is what it is. It doesn't matter if they are doing it all the time, they did it this time and were caught.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

It is who he the Pats and BB are.

They got caught red handed breaking the rules by filming the new staff of the Bengals for ever. They weren't even filming the scout. It is what it is. It doesn't matter if they are doing it all the time, they did it this time and were caught.

At the moment they weren't but it is believable that the crew was trying to show how things would look like thru the scouts eyes. You wouldn't tape the scout for that. It was a rules violation but the hoopla is more likely than not just because it was NE. If the league can prove that football guys broke down the footage then yeah you come down with the hammer but as of now I'm willing to buy that it was a separate mistake.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

The 49ers should try cheating.

We used to, when we were winning championships...

Only when it comes to money. Eddie giving bonuses under the table. Old school envelopes of cash

Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

Originally posted by elguapo:

Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

It's 2019, if they think the cheating didn't help, they wouldn't continued to do it up to now.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

It's 2019, if they think the cheating didn't help, they wouldn't continued to do it up to now.

Very true

Originally posted by elguapo:

Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

No, it's not proven that they cheated. They may of just involuntarily violated a rule which happens and quite a bit. And one can argue it's because they've been caught before is why you already assume the worse even when the evidence isn't pointing that way.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

No, it's not proven that they cheated. They may of just involuntarily violated a rule which happens and quite a bit. And one can argue it's because they've been caught before is why you already assume the worse even when the evidence isn't pointing that way.

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Funny but do people not get that they were filming right in front of Bengals staffers in a press box. It just makes a ton more sense that this is nothing more than a video crew not knowing the rules. Opposed to Bill creating a web series to cover his attempts at cheating vs the worse team in football.

Damn. Bellicheat has spy goons everywhere.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Either way you want to cut it, the patriots cheated and for those of you sticking up for them, think of how many times they haven't been caught. Now that is the real question. So maybe think before defending them, they are cheaters their coach is a cheater a lot of teams like to get the competitive advantage but this goes way beyond that.

Whether the cheating help them win or not is another story but it's kind of pointless. Either way, the Chiefs and the ravens Are the new teams to beat in the AFC so I don't think New England will be winning another Super Bowl with Brady

No, it's not proven that they cheated. They may of just involuntarily violated a rule which happens and quite a bit. And one can argue it's because they've been caught before is why you already assume the worse even when the evidence isn't pointing that way.

I'm not already assuming the worst I am listening to the evidence, did you hear what the camera guy was saying? You can't always place the blame elsewhere bc You didn't know the rules. Just listen to the audio and it's pretty obvious. Even if it wasn't for a huge advantage it still occurred. This may be a smaller incident, but it certainly is Yet another incident.

All the cheating in the world won't help them win another Super Bowl. In my opinion they are never going to win another one especially since Baltimore in Kansas City have emerged as well as the Niners and saints

Originally posted by elguapo:

I'm not already assuming the worst I am listening to the evidence, did you hear what the camera guy was saying? You can't always place the blame elsewhere bc You didn't know the rules. Just listen to the audio and it's pretty obvious. Even if it wasn't for a huge advantage it still occurred. This may be a smaller incident, but it certainly is Yet another incident.

All the cheating in the world won't help them win another Super Bowl. In my opinion they are never going to win another one especially since Baltimore in Kansas City have emerged as well as the Niners and saints

The cameraman violated a rule anyway this is spun. He's now suspended so of course he was acting sketchy. That's not to protect NE it's to protect himself. I also don't know what's so hard to grasp here. They were filming a scout so yeah the camera crew could think it would be cool to film the Bengal sideline because what do you think he's scouting? Now that's a rules violation and they will be punished but their story checks out here. Unless Bill is retarded and sends a crew in Boston t shirts to spy right in front of Bengals personnel in a press box.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by elguapo:

I'm not already assuming the worst I am listening to the evidence, did you hear what the camera guy was saying? You can't always place the blame elsewhere bc You didn't know the rules. Just listen to the audio and it's pretty obvious. Even if it wasn't for a huge advantage it still occurred. This may be a smaller incident, but it certainly is Yet another incident.

All the cheating in the world won't help them win another Super Bowl. In my opinion they are never going to win another one especially since Baltimore in Kansas City have emerged as well as the Niners and saints

The cameraman violated a rule anyway this is spun. He's now suspended so of course he was acting sketchy. That's not to protect NE it's to protect himself. I also don't know what's so hard to grasp here. They were filming a scout so yeah the camera crew could think it would be cool to film the Bengal sideline because what do you think he's scouting? Now that's a rules violation and they will be punished but their story checks out here. Unless Bill is retarded and sends a crew in Boston t shirts to spy right in front of Bengals personnel in a press box.

Pretty much this, especially the last part.