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  • jcs
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Originally posted by Curlin:
The NFL is going to have a problem if this team makes it back to the SB. I am sick of this flicking team. The main reason they get there is because they have played in the weakest division in football for the last 15 years.
The Jets -They were supposed to be the real threat to the Pats but I am absolutely convinced they are cursed. Who fkng gets Mono today? Its like a disease from the dark ages.
The Dolphins - I don't need to say anything.
The Bills - Well they are all thats left. Maybe they can lose by less points than the other 2 teams.

This division is a JOKE and their victories are tainted forever!

Getting to the super bowl involves winning playoff games
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Curlin:
The NFL is going to have a problem if this team makes it back to the SB. I am sick of this flicking team. The main reason they get there is because they have played in the weakest division in football for the last 15 years.
The Jets -They were supposed to be the real threat to the Pats but I am absolutely convinced they are cursed. Who fkng gets Mono today? Its like a disease from the dark ages.
The Dolphins - I don't need to say anything.
The Bills - Well they are all thats left. Maybe they can lose by less points than the other 2 teams.

This division is a JOKE and their victories are tainted forever!

Getting to the super bowl involves winning playoff games


It's not very hard to get into the playoffs when the 3 other teams in that division have been a disaster

Seriously, 49ers used to get s**t in the 80s & 90s for playing in a "weak" Western division but even those teams would eventually get their s**t together and make playoff runs, Patriots have owned the AFC East for 18 years, and the Bills,Jets, & Dolphins have done nothing but bend over to them, those 2 seasons from the Jets with Rex Ryan is the only exception
[ Edited by Aj_hwd954 on Sep 18, 2019 at 12:52 AM ]
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.
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Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.

Just get to the playoff rested!!!
Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.

It's absolutely ridiculous. I mean I've said it as a joke before that Brady is in league with the Devil or something, but shoot, sometimes it's hard not to think what the actual F is going on here? It's absurd how they get a free pass to division crowns every year. I honestly want division realignment just for the sake of giving them more competition. That division outside of the Patriots must have the worst record in the NFL over the past decade.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Sep 18, 2019 at 6:06 AM ]
Patriots in the easy division. Niners in the toughest division. Life ain't fair, lol
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.

It's absolutely ridiculous. I mean I've said it as a joke before that Brady is in league with the Devil or something, but shoot, sometimes it's hard not to think what the actual F is going on here? It's absurd how they get a free pass to division crowns every year. I honestly want division realignment just for the sake of giving them more competition. That division outside of the Patriots must have the worst record in the NFL over the past decade.

A lot of that is due to how successful the Pats are. These coaches are getting fired after 2 years in that division if they dont win. Its impossible to build any kind of continuity that way.

And like someone already mentioned, our division was also pretty weak in the 80s and there was no salary cap. Pats have had a 20 year run within the salary cap era, thats impressive no matter what kind of excuses people want to make.

We would've dominated most of the 90s as well if Walsh didnt retire and the nfc west would've continued being a joke.
Those weak opponents in the division do make a difference. I saw somewhere that the other 3 teams have had something like 40 different QB's in the time that Brady has been starting. The salary cap hasn't been an issue for them because Brady is willing to take less money because his wife makes twice what he does and Belichick doesn't pay anyone else. He let's them leave. The Niners had some weak opponents in their division but NO, the Falcons and the Rams all had good teams at some point during their run. Then they had to make it through the NFC playoffs when the NFC was much stronger than the AFC. Just look at the blowouts in the SB. It didn't make a difference whether it was the Niners, Giants, Bears or Cowboys. Whoever won the NFC was always a huge favorite to win the SB. NE has had a much easier path. Actually their just aren't any really strong teams now because of the salary cap. It may be more competitive but it's nearly impossible to buils a strong roster with depth and maintain it for more than a year or two.
Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.
This.

It's quite easy to get into the playoffs years after year when you know you already have 6 games guaranteed in the bag before you've even played a game. No other division is that easy to win, and for that length of time too. It seems all they can do is wait for Brady and Belichick to retire. The 49ers never had it this easy in the 80's. Plus, the rules of the game were vastly different then; the QB's and WR's didn't have diapers on them like they do now. That skew's things as well. This is why I REFUSE to call Brady the GOAT QB, I don't care how many SB's he wins.

So, I propose realignment more often to maintain parity

Proposed AFC East:
Patriots
Cowboys
Giants
Buccs

Proposed NFC East:
Eagles
Jets
Redskins
Ravens

Proposed AFC North:
Browns
Bengals
Steelers
Bills

Proposed AFC South
Colts
Jaguars
Texans
Titans

Proposed NFC South
Dolphins
Falcons
Saints
Panthers

NFC North:
No change

NFC West:
No change

AFC West:
No change

With that alignment I promise you that the Patriots won't have such an easy path to the playoffs. In fact, that realignment will bring even more parity.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Curlin:
The NFL is going to have a problem if this team makes it back to the SB. I am sick of this flicking team. The main reason they get there is because they have played in the weakest division in football for the last 15 years.
The Jets -They were supposed to be the real threat to the Pats but I am absolutely convinced they are cursed. Who fkng gets Mono today? Its like a disease from the dark ages.
The Dolphins - I don't need to say anything.
The Bills - Well they are all thats left. Maybe they can lose by less points than the other 2 teams.

This division is a JOKE and their victories are tainted forever!

Getting to the super bowl involves winning playoff games

True, but can their path to the playoffs be ANY easier? They can start their 2nd and 3rd stringers all season, then have a well rested starting lineup for the playoffs.
[ Edited by JimA49ers on Sep 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM ]
Drafted the PATS D!! They are putting up some serious RB1 type of points with that crap division.
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Curlin:
The NFL is going to have a problem if this team makes it back to the SB. I am sick of this flicking team. The main reason they get there is because they have played in the weakest division in football for the last 15 years.
The Jets -They were supposed to be the real threat to the Pats but I am absolutely convinced they are cursed. Who fkng gets Mono today? Its like a disease from the dark ages.
The Dolphins - I don't need to say anything.
The Bills - Well they are all thats left. Maybe they can lose by less points than the other 2 teams.

This division is a JOKE and their victories are tainted forever!

Getting to the super bowl involves winning playoff games

True, but can their path to the playoffs be ANY easier? They can start their 2nd and 3rd stringers all season, then have a well rested starting lineup for the playoffs.
Easier path to a bye week as well.
GO BUFFALO!!!
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.
This.

It's quite easy to get into the playoffs years after year when you know you already have 6 games guaranteed in the bag before you've even played a game. No other division is that easy to win, and for that length of time too. It seems all they can do is wait for Brady and Belichick to retire. The 49ers never had it this easy in the 80's. Plus, the rules of the game were vastly different then; the QB's and WR's didn't have diapers on them like they do now. That skew's things as well. This is why I REFUSE to call Brady the GOAT QB, I don't care how many SB's he wins.

So, I propose realignment more often to maintain parity

Proposed AFC East:
Patriots
Cowboys
Giants
Buccs

Proposed NFC East:
Eagles
Jets
Redskins
Ravens

Proposed AFC North:
Browns
Bengals
Steelers
Bills

Proposed AFC South
Colts
Jaguars
Texans
Titans

Proposed NFC South
Dolphins
Falcons
Saints
Panthers

NFC North:
No change

NFC West:
No change

AFC West:
No change

With that alignment I promise you that the Patriots won't have such an easy path to the playoffs. In fact, that realignment will bring even more parity.

To be honest, I'm kind of surprised the NFL doesn't alternate team divisions each year based on standings. Maybe complicate things too much, but you wouldn't have this same old same old year after year.
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by English:
The division has been a joke for years. it basically gives NE a 6 game start. No wonder they always get to the playoffs.
This.

It's quite easy to get into the playoffs years after year when you know you already have 6 games guaranteed in the bag before you've even played a game. No other division is that easy to win, and for that length of time too. It seems all they can do is wait for Brady and Belichick to retire. The 49ers never had it this easy in the 80's. Plus, the rules of the game were vastly different then; the QB's and WR's didn't have diapers on them like they do now. That skew's things as well. This is why I REFUSE to call Brady the GOAT QB, I don't care how many SB's he wins.

So, I propose realignment more often to maintain parity

Proposed AFC East:
Patriots
Cowboys
Giants
Buccs

Proposed NFC East:
Eagles
Jets
Redskins
Ravens

Proposed AFC North:
Browns
Bengals
Steelers
Bills

Proposed AFC South
Colts
Jaguars
Texans
Titans

Proposed NFC South
Dolphins
Falcons
Saints
Panthers

NFC North:
No change

NFC West:
No change

AFC West:
No change

With that alignment I promise you that the Patriots won't have such an easy path to the playoffs. In fact, that realignment will bring even more parity.

To be honest, I'm kind of surprised the NFL doesn't alternate team divisions each year based on standings. Maybe complicate things too much, but you wouldn't have this same old same old year after year.

You're surprised by that? It's basically the system used by every American sports league. Alternating teams in divisions yearly sounds like a worse idea than the realignment strategy used above. lol
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