Emmanuel Moseley CB Detroit Lions

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
The team was better off addressing the secondary and corner positions in the draft, instead of giving up several years of first round capitol for a QB from backwater university to ride the bench and "learn" . It was foolish of the FO to believe Jason Verrett would've given us another fully healthy campaign. If this team falls short in the playoffs, if they even make it at all, the secondary will be the main factor, if not the right side of the OLine .

Giving up that amount of draft capital for Lance was a stupid move. I would've rather picked Kyle Pitts at 3. McVay said he thought that's what we were going to do when we first made that move.

I have to disagree big time, yes the price was steep, but if Trey turns into who we think he can be, no one will care that we gave up 2 future 1's to get the franchise QB that seems like the perfect fit for Kyle's offense. Trading that much for a Kyle Pitts, or a CB would have been dumb, that's done for a QB, and who's QB if they didn't take Trey? Cause they weren't gonna get up to 3 without giving up 2 1's & a 3rd, and the 49ers need a QB on a rookie deal, they need JG's $25M in 2022(I don't buy he may be back unless he takes a huge pay cut), to get guys like Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, etc... extended by not having a QB making $27.5M+ a year cap wise, and keep the guys we signed long term(Warner, Kittle, Trent, Juice, soon to be Deebo, & Bosa).

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I have to disagree big time, yes the price was steep, but if Trey turns into who we think he can be, no one will care that we gave up 2 future 1's to get the franchise QB that seems like the perfect fit for Kyle's offense. Trading that much for a Kyle Pitts, or a CB would have been dumb, that's done for a QB, and who's QB if they didn't take Trey? Cause they weren't gonna get up to 3 without giving up 2 1's & a 3rd, and the 49ers need a QB on a rookie deal, they need JG's $25M in 2022(I don't buy he may be back unless he takes a huge pay cut), to get guys like Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, etc... extended by not having a QB making $27.5M+ a year cap wise, and keep the guys we signed long term(Warner, Kittle, Trent, Juice, soon to be Deebo, & Bosa).

The problem with the "we have up too much, build around jimmy" is:

A. He can't stay healthy
B. The QB class last year was good, this year's seems bad

So I agree it was a lot to give up and I wouldn't have been opposed to taking best QB left at 12 but we had no clue who would be there, if anyone.

Under no circumstances should we have skipped on a QB with our 1st round pick this year. It would have been long term irresponsible

I don't think this guy was targeted vs the vikings.

The biggest thing that has helped Eman is signing Josh Norman.

Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

Wonderful. Will he "officially" go on I.R. or is he another dude that doesn't go on the list but never plays, regardless?

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

Don't count on it. all either team has to do is just throw it up

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

Wonderful. Will he "officially" go on I.R. or is he another dude that doesn't go on the list but never plays, regardless?

I know right? This is beautiful couldn't of worked out more perfectly. Now we're going to struggle every game vs the pass because we arguably have a top five set of worst outside corners in the league. I haven't seen the details yet but I'm sure it will be like you said, not on injured reserve but who knows when the f he will be back

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

Don't count on it. all either team has to do is just throw it up

Very true, at least our defense is that much better than those teams. Then again that's relying on if Warner is healthy or Greenlaw or even Ford coming back. Every year it's the same s**t with major injuries. Every single year!

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

I hear you, elguapo. The Niners may have drafted a couple of rookie CBs with promise but they're just that - rookies - and have already been exposed badly a few times as you mention. They should have signed in the offseason another quality vet like Casey Hayward...I know you've mentioned him a few times and I've always thought highly of his play. Another vet that could've not only produced but also helped the rookies in getting acclimated.

Now, this team is looking at more D. Johnson time with Moseley out....and against Burrow and WR Chase coming up this weekend.

f**king great. High ankle sprain. Our thinnest position just got thinner.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

I hear you, elguapo. The Niners may have drafted a couple of rookie CBs with promise but they're just that - rookies - and have already been exposed badly a few times as you mention. They should have signed in the offseason another quality vet like Casey Hayward...I know you've mentioned him a few times and I've always thought highly of his play. Another vet that could've not only produced but also helped the rookies in getting acclimated.

Now, this team is looking at more D. Johnson time with Moseley out....and against Burrow and WR Chase coming up this weekend.

Yeah Lott you're right about Hayward. Such an obvious choice and fix at cb. Then at the trade deadline there was Gillmore and Henderson. I guess our front office is not only content with bad corner play but they just don't value quality depth as well. Rookies doesn't always do the trick and as we saw that rookie corner helped cost us the Green Bay game and certainly this game. Donte Johnson is so bad but he did OK in the slot last year so I don't know if we're going to move K Williams to the outside but we will see.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, there it is we finally are f**ked! He is expected to miss several weeks. This is the exact time we do not need him to miss several weeks. We can get by Houston and Atlanta but we're going to have problems now that our two starting corners are down.

Pathetic, I have been screaming all off-season to get cornerbacks in here and even before the trade deadline and nothing was done. This is what happens. Losses that would've been wins. The Green Bay game, the Colts game, this game, We could easily lose the Bengals game if we don't get a lot of pressure on Burrow. Got to love these injuries

I hear you, elguapo. The Niners may have drafted a couple of rookie CBs with promise but they're just that - rookies - and have already been exposed badly a few times as you mention. They should have signed in the offseason another quality vet like Casey Hayward...I know you've mentioned him a few times and I've always thought highly of his play. Another vet that could've not only produced but also helped the rookies in getting acclimated.

Now, this team is looking at more D. Johnson time with Moseley out....and against Burrow and WR Chase coming up this weekend.

Yeah Lott you're right about Hayward. Such an obvious choice and fix at cb. Then at the trade deadline there was Gillmore and Henderson. I guess our front office is not only content with bad corner play but they just don't value quality depth as well. Rookies doesn't always do the trick and as we saw that rookie corner helped cost us the Green Bay game and certainly this game. Donte Johnson is so bad but he did OK in the slot last year so I don't know if we're going to move K Williams to the outside but we will see.

That's a good point about possibly moving D. Johnson to the slot under the circumstances since he did pretty well all things considered last year.

K. Williams seems like he could play any CB position...just not sure they'd move him outside considering how effective he's been in the slot. Glad he's had a healthy stretch. Now, we just gotta hope for the best.

I played some CB back in junior high & high school...I'm a little older and on the tall side for a CB at 6'4"...I like to mix it up with WRs, though, and maybe they'd give me a tryout?

Of course. Really would have been been nice to get that win yesterday

Omg the bengals are gonna hang 40 on this pathetic secondary