Andrew Luck has retired from the NFL.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Steve Beuerlein weighed in..

"I am a HUGE #AndrewLuck fan… always have been. But this I cannot defend or justify. NO scenario where retirement is defensible," Beuerlein wrote to begin a series of tweets. "To do this to his teammates, organization, fans, and the NFL 2 weeks before the season is just not right. I love the guy but this will haunt him.

"Point is this is a massive decision he SAID he has pondered for 10 DAYS! #Colts invested in him for 5-10 more YRS! Go on IR, get away for a few weeks and think about it. Get healthy for 2nd half of season and make a run! #Colts are good! If #Jacoby goes 4-4 they have a chance!

"The MILLIONS he walked away from affects only HIM. The DECISION to walk away just prior to the season affects his TEAM, ORGANIZATION, FANBASE, and the ENTIRE NFL… ALL had invested in him for this year at least. Walk away AFTER the season.

"His team needs him to make this run. I know rehab is tough. I had 19 surgeries as a player… 8 over 2 years. It sucks! But he owes it to his team. It is just a lower leg injury and it will heal! Just give it a chance. If it doesn't walk away after this year."

I feel like this. You don't quit 2 weeks before the season. You either quit no later than just before the draft or you wait till after the season.

...he doesn't want to play anymore. What does waiting til after the season do? Literally the whole reason he is quitting is to avoid injury and heal. The ENTIRE reason this happened in August is because he worked his ass off to get his body ready for the season -- and it just did not respond.

So then you go through the season and rehab and get right while being there for your team, supporting Brissett and announce retirement after the season. His latest injury doesn't even have him limping that I could see.....

Why? He doesn't like football. Brissett needs to be his own man.

Why can't he just do this via phone, text and the occasional practice drop in? Why does he have to be at the team facility week-in, week-out? He doesn't want to be there.

Then he should have made that decision in March/April. You don't effin retire the last week in August imo.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

What an effin douche. Leave your team high and dry last freaking minute. How completely selfish can you be? If this is something he was willing to do at all, it's been something that's been on his mind for a long time. He should have bowed out in February, not 2 weeks before the season starts.

He wasn't hurt in Feb.

So he juuuuust started thinking "Man these injuries are starting to pile up. Maybe I should start thinking retirement" with this recent calf injury that doesn't even have him limping as he walks around the field and hadn't thought about it prior to this minor meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) injury?

Reports are out that he thought about retirement during his shoulder rehab a couple of years ago. As for his injury I'm sure you got the inside report as to how bad it is because the rest of the world hasn't. The guy couldn't even stand on the pedestal with ought moving back and forth while he announced his retirement.

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

You can walk without a limp after an ACL tear .

Biggest quitter in the game!

Originally posted by WINiner:
That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

How do you know he didn't tell the Colts?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:
What an effin douche. Leave your team high and dry last freaking minute. How completely selfish can you be? If this is something he was willing to do at all, it's been something that's been on his mind for a long time. He should have bowed out in February, not 2 weeks before the season starts.

He wasn't hurt in Feb.

So he juuuuust started thinking "Man these injuries are starting to pile up. Maybe I should start thinking retirement" with this recent calf injury that doesn't even have him limping as he walks around the field and hadn't thought about it prior to this minor meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) injury?

Reports are out that he thought about retirement during his shoulder rehab a couple of years ago. As for his injury I'm sure you got the inside report as to how bad it is because the rest of the world hasn't. The guy couldn't even stand on the pedestal with ought moving back and forth while he announced his retirement.

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

You can walk without a limp after an ACL tear .

But he doesn't have an acl, he has a calf issue, which usually results in a limp when severe, but it doesn't matter. He can make whatever choice he wants. The timing is selfish and b******t imo.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:
What an effin douche. Leave your team high and dry last freaking minute. How completely selfish can you be? If this is something he was willing to do at all, it's been something that's been on his mind for a long time. He should have bowed out in February, not 2 weeks before the season starts.

He wasn't hurt in Feb.

So he juuuuust started thinking "Man these injuries are starting to pile up. Maybe I should start thinking retirement" with this recent calf injury that doesn't even have him limping as he walks around the field and hadn't thought about it prior to this minor meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) injury?

Reports are out that he thought about retirement during his shoulder rehab a couple of years ago. As for his injury I'm sure you got the inside report as to how bad it is because the rest of the world hasn't. The guy couldn't even stand on the pedestal with ought moving back and forth while he announced his retirement.

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

You can walk without a limp after an ACL tear .

But he doesn't have an acl, he has a calf issue, which usually results in a limp when severe, but it doesn't matter. He can make whatever choice he wants. The timing is selfish and b******t imo.

I think it's b******t and selfish of the fans to expect him to play when he doesn't want to anymore.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:
What an effin douche. Leave your team high and dry last freaking minute. How completely selfish can you be? If this is something he was willing to do at all, it's been something that's been on his mind for a long time. He should have bowed out in February, not 2 weeks before the season starts.

He wasn't hurt in Feb.

So he juuuuust started thinking "Man these injuries are starting to pile up. Maybe I should start thinking retirement" with this recent calf injury that doesn't even have him limping as he walks around the field and hadn't thought about it prior to this minor meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) injury?

Reports are out that he thought about retirement during his shoulder rehab a couple of years ago. As for his injury I'm sure you got the inside report as to how bad it is because the rest of the world hasn't. The guy couldn't even stand on the pedestal with ought moving back and forth while he announced his retirement.

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

You can walk without a limp after an ACL tear .

But he doesn't have an acl, he has a calf issue, which usually results in a limp when severe, but it doesn't matter. He can make whatever choice he wants. The timing is selfish and b******t imo.

I think it's b******t and selfish of the fans to expect him to play when he doesn't want to anymore.

Ok....

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by WINiner:

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

How do you know he didn't tell the Colts?

From what I read the Colts have been preparing for this for over a year now. They even had some clause in his contract regarding an early retirement. And it makes sense bc teams have been calling about Jacoby for over a year now and even 2nd round picks were mentioned, and they wouldn't trade him.

Theres even a sound clip of Luck saying he doesnt know if he can handle another season of rehabing if this happens again.

Now this current injury he has with his calf, has been undiagnosable, doctors dont know whats wrong.

So for those saying he shouldve retired months ago, he didnt know this injury was gonna happen, this is a fairly new injury. He told Peter King weeks ago he was ready for camp and couldnt wait...then this injury happened.

Lastly, people need to grow up and stop thinking that a GAME is more important than someones life. It doesn't matter how you feel about it, Luck or whoever has the right to do whats best for them. If you cant understand that as an adult, especially if you have a family, than I suggest you get your priorities right.

Lynch to Ballard, I may have injured players, but atleast they're not retiring...

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by WINiner:
That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

How do you know he didn't tell the Colts?

From what I read the Colts have been preparing for this for over a year now. They even had some clause in his contract regarding an early retirement. And it makes sense bc teams have been calling about Jacoby for over a year now and even 2nd round picks were mentioned, and they wouldn't trade him.

Theres even a sound clip of Luck saying he doesnt know if he can handle another season of rehabing if this happens again.

Now this current injury he has with his calf, has been undiagnosable, doctors dont know whats wrong.

So for those saying he shouldve retired months ago, he didnt know this injury was gonna happen, this is a fairly new injury. He told Peter King weeks ago he was ready for camp and couldnt wait...then this injury happened.

Lastly, people need to grow up and stop thinking that a GAME is more important than someones life. It doesn't matter how you feel about it, Luck or whoever has the right to do whats best for them. If you cant understand that as an adult, especially if you have a family, than I suggest you get your priorities right.

Oh get off yer high friken horse. If the Colts and Luck knew he was potentially going to retire at any moment or that it was likely, but they allowed him to act like he was all in on the season then the fans have EVERY right to be pissed because they were lied to and invested in a season under false pretenses. If he was in a "one more injury and Im done" mental state of mind then he was done a long time ago. If the Colts knew about all this then it's not so egregious against him, but I still contend he should have hung them up in the spring at the latest if that was his mindset and if it was then he and the team are guilty of purposely deceiving the fanbase.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by 4ML:

I think Luck knows better if he had a season ending or career ending injury or how severe his injuries were. And there is mental health aspect to this. Like I said - he gets to decide his own career.

And if a doofus replaces their outgoing teacher - it is not the fault of their teacher.

If Luck knew in his heart and mind that there is no way he can do the job - it is admirable that he left rather than sitting out and keep cashing the checks.

As of now there's no evidence that this was season or career ending. As for the mental health aspect that's an off-season thing he should of weighed heavier. If your desire to play is dependent on 100% health you might be in the wrong place. He did get to decide and fans told him what they thought of that. I'm fine with both of those.

Sorry, can't disagree more. Luck gets to decide if his injury is career ending or not. He gets to decide when he needs to weigh mental aspect of it.

And lastly, if fans told him what they think then I get to say what I think of the fans as well - they are selfish and narrow-minded, like many fans.

I think it's clear he's going to the XFL. Not necessarily to play but you never know, crazier Things have happened before. His former offensive coordinator "Pep Hamilton" is the current head coach of the DC Defenders coincidentally that's where Andrew luck is from. His former college teammate and best friend is the Director of football ops. Clear he's going to the XFL for some type of role. And we all know his dad is the commish. When they announce it, I want all my credit because no one seems to be talking about any of this.

I have thought long and hard about this. It does not bother me that he retired, that is his decision. What bothers me the most is using the injury excuse. The game of football is a rough and physical game and it takes a toll on the body. However, he chose to play the game as a profession, knowing the injury risks. As a veteran, I see the wounded soldiers who have lost an arm, leg or even both legs or arms. They get up each morning, grind through the day, some learning to walk again and push through the catastrophic injuries suffered in war. These men and women are not rewarded with 10's of millions of dollars each year. These men and women chose to fight next to their buddies and for their country. Not one of them gave up or complained about their injuries or regretted making that sacrifice. They lay in a hospital, or sit in a wheelchair or some may not walk at all, yet most have a profound look on life. It has been my honor to know these individuals and as I look at my life, i realize I have it pretty good. So, complaining about injuries and how rough it will be going forward, I hope Luck can take few moments to reflect. He has it a lot better than most of us.

Originally posted by twindad:

I have thought long and hard about this. It does not bother me that he retired, that is his decision. What bothers me the most is using the injury excuse. The game of football is a rough and physical game and it takes a toll on the body. However, he chose to play the game as a profession, knowing the injury risks. As a veteran, I see the wounded soldiers who have lost an arm, leg or even both legs or arms. They get up each morning, grind through the day, some learning to walk again and push through the catastrophic injuries suffered in war. These men and women are not rewarded with 10's of millions of dollars each year. These men and women chose to fight next to their buddies and for their country. Not one of them gave up or complained about their injuries or regretted making that sacrifice. They lay in a hospital, or sit in a wheelchair or some may not walk at all, yet most have a profound look on life. It has been my honor to know these individuals and as I look at my life, i realize I have it pretty good. So, complaining about injuries and how rough it will be going forward, I hope Luck can take few moments to reflect. He has it a lot better than most of us.

I have a lot I could say in response to this because a lot of what you said frustrates the hell out of me but I will say, money isn't everything. Teammates and an organization arent his whole world. He's married and he deserves to live a happy life with his wife just like anyone else and if it means waking up a little less sore every day or not having to do rounds of physical therapy every week who are we to say, "no he can't? " Soldiers sign up knowing they could die on day one in the front lines. This guy signed up knowing his body was gonna take a beating and never once did he call out his horrendous offensive line, the coaches and organization. He did it all with class and for his love of the game. That does not mean he has to do it until he's a broken heap on the sidelines or on the field. Those vets you speak of have to do what you've mentioned, they lost their chance at a choice unfortunately the moment they got wounded. Andrew didn't want to wait till that moment and chose to walk around now. I don't blame him one bit.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by WINiner:

What an effin douche. Leave your team high and dry last freaking minute. How completely selfish can you be? If this is something he was willing to do at all, it's been something that's been on his mind for a long time. He should have bowed out in February, not 2 weeks before the season starts.

He wasn't hurt in Feb.

So he juuuuust started thinking "Man these injuries are starting to pile up. Maybe I should start thinking retirement" with this recent calf injury that doesn't even have him limping as he walks around the field and hadn't thought about it prior to this minor meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) injury?

Reports are out that he thought about retirement during his shoulder rehab a couple of years ago. As for his injury I'm sure you got the inside report as to how bad it is because the rest of the world hasn't. The guy couldn't even stand on the pedestal with ought moving back and forth while he announced his retirement.

That's my point. If you are contemplating retirement as far back as years ago, you don't f**king wait till two weeks before the season to make that decision, how effing selfish can you be? He has a responsibility to his teammates and the fans.

I watched him walk around the field with little to no limp during the game.....

You can walk without a limp after an ACL tear .

But he doesn't have an acl, he has a calf issue, which usually results in a limp when severe, but it doesn't matter. He can make whatever choice he wants. The timing is selfish and b******t imo.

Rumor is it's myositis ossificans .

It's when bone forms in the muscle from trauma . When bad (limited range of motion , impingement on nerves or circulation ) it needs surgery and rehab . Problem is , surgery isn't recommended until 6-12 months after the injury to reduce chance of recurrence .

Injury might have happened in playoffs in Jan or in March during practice , most likely Jan with a hit . A doctor could want to do surgery as late as Dec / Jan which means he could miss the whole season any way .

Luck may have attempted rehab , and it failed and the next step is surgery . Who knows, maybe the medical
Staff misdiagnosed it from the start (calf strain , then high ankle sprain , and it retarded the recovery process and is retiring to manage it with his own medical team .