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Mar 29, 2020 at 5:00 AM
- JTB1974
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What happens if there is no NFL season in 2020? Do all contracts get frozen? That would be bad for the Saints if that's the case. Bad for the Saints in general if the season gets cancelled because this upcoming season is their best chance? Bad for the Bucs also due to Brady's age. Brees and Brady can't afford to have a season just wiped out.
Mar 29, 2020 at 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by SteveYoung8:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:Yep, a perfect example of what I am referring to. Seattle bringing in guys like Revis, Gordon and Graham and NE with Moss, Gordon and now Sanu are great examples of those contenders getting after it. They don't sit on their hands and watch FA go by no matter how good their teams are.
Contenders gamble at the deadline for a shot to win it all. See the Pats and trading a pick for Sanu. (They gave up a 2)
The irony being that I don't think any of those teams ever won a Super Bowl the offseasons they did that.
Mar 30, 2020 at 9:02 AM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by SteveYoung8:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:Yep, a perfect example of what I am referring to. Seattle bringing in guys like Revis, Gordon and Graham and NE with Moss, Gordon and now Sanu are great examples of those contenders getting after it. They don't sit on their hands and watch FA go by no matter how good their teams are.
Contenders gamble at the deadline for a shot to win it all. See the Pats and trading a pick for Sanu. (They gave up a 2)
The irony being that I don't think any of those teams ever won a Super Bowl the offseasons they did that.
The point remains that they don't sit on their hands and watch FA go by no matter how good their teams are. The fact that they didn't happen to win the SB those years is irrelevant.
Mar 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM
- Who-is-Hayne
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Originally posted by Goatie:Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by Goatie:Originally posted by FredFlintstone:Sanders clearly went there because they offered him the most, just happened to be a contending team. I don't think it has anything to do with targets
When you are a WR and are 33 years old you have to go for the highest payer. Not many years left for him and I wish him the best of luck
Yeah, went with the money grab.
He got the big cold shoulder from 49ers management. I wonder why?
A lot to do with cap space.
Mar 30, 2020 at 10:28 PM
- Kolohe
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I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
Mar 30, 2020 at 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Mar 30, 2020 at 10:43 PM ]
Mar 30, 2020 at 11:15 PM
- Who-is-Hayne
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Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by Kolohe:I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
Had plenty of chances to get a deal done before contract expired.
After that, he would see what teams would pay. NO was likely the best after that.
Mar 30, 2020 at 11:25 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by SteveYoung8:Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by SteveYoung8:Yep, a perfect example of what I am referring to. Seattle bringing in guys like Revis, Gordon and Graham and NE with Moss, Gordon and now Sanu are great examples of those contenders getting after it. They don't sit on their hands and watch FA go by no matter how good their teams are.Originally posted by TheXFactor:Contenders gamble at the deadline for a shot to win it all. See the Pats and trading a pick for Sanu. (They gave up a 2)
The irony being that I don't think any of those teams ever won a Super Bowl the offseasons they did that.
The point remains that they don't sit on their hands and watch FA go by no matter how good their teams are. The fact that they didn't happen to win the SB those years is irrelevant.
The goal is to improve your team so you can ultimately win the Super Bowl. There are multiple ways to do that. And every year people overreact to free agency signings, which have never pushed a team over the top in recent history. It's pretty relevant unless you want to see the team making moves just for the sake of making moves. What were your thoughts on the 49ers free agency moves the last 3 offseasons?
Mar 30, 2020 at 11:41 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
Had plenty of chances to get a deal done before contract expired.
After that, he would see what teams would pay. NO was likely the best after that.
Yup they had a lot of time to get a deal done, the two days of tampering period which they didn't even need was more than enough time.
Mar 30, 2020 at 11:48 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
Had plenty of chances to get a deal done before contract expired.
After that, he would see what teams would pay. NO was likely the best after that.
Yup they had a lot of time to get a deal done, the two days of tampering period which they didn't even need was more than enough time.
He didn't want to stay - he was NO bound as soon as he got an offer. He wanted to play with Brees - can't blame the guy, but for what ever reason he didn't want to come back to SF.
Mar 31, 2020 at 7:52 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by mayo49:
He didn't want to stay - he was NO bound as soon as he got an offer. He wanted to play with Brees - can't blame the guy, but for what ever reason he didn't want to come back to SF.
Teams almost always overpay for free agents. The 49ers didn't think his production was worth the money he got form NO.
Mar 31, 2020 at 8:09 AM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by Kolohe:I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
Had plenty of chances to get a deal done before contract expired.
After that, he would see what teams would pay. NO was likely the best after that.
Yup they had a lot of time to get a deal done, the two days of tampering period which they didn't even need was more than enough time.
Nobody knows what really went down. He's the one who wanted to wait and take his time. And as soon as the Saints offered, he told everyone else no. This FO has shown us they know how to build a contender. I'm not mad at all. Can't sign everybody
[ Edited by braap49er on Mar 31, 2020 at 8:09 AM ]
Mar 31, 2020 at 4:28 PM
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm pretty disappointed in the 9ers for not re-signing Sanders. I don't care what the circumstances were, they had every opportunity to re-sign him but didn't. Why in the hell would you throw away a 3rd and 4th round picks for a one year rental! Who's the knuckle that chose to NOT re-sign him??
I don't think they had much of a chance. Looks like Sanders wanted to play for NO and DB.
Had plenty of chances to get a deal done before contract expired.
After that, he would see what teams would pay. NO was likely the best after that.
Yup they had a lot of time to get a deal done, the two days of tampering period which they didn't even need was more than enough time.
He didn't want to stay - he was NO bound as soon as he got an offer. He wanted to play with Brees - can't blame the guy, but for what ever reason he didn't want to come back to SF.
This crisis got rats taking over Bourbon Street (humongous problem in NO)...he might catch #Hantavirus
Apr 4, 2020 at 10:07 PM
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I just think at the end of the day, he simply wanted to play somewhere else and cash in. He probably thought to himself that since most teams that loose the SB dont do well the next year, and the fact that he wanted to play for a contender, and he wanted some more money too, made NO seem like a perfect fit. While I was disappointed to see him go at first, I then thought to myself that if he really really wanted to stay here, he surely would have. His loyalty was limited, and in a way I do get it since this is a business. But with that said too, our front office also knows its a business and was not about to overpay for a 33 year old WR. If you take a look at the WR's in the 1st Round of this draft, not just at 13, but at 31 too, this class is very deep with WR talent. If we end up landed a really good WR in the 1st Round (which should not be that hard), then that rookie's production i bet would end up matching Sanders if he stayed. Look at Deebo this past year.....hell, if our next 1st Round rookie WR does anything like that, then our front office will look smart not overpaying Sanders. Jerury, Lamb, Ruggs, Mims, Higgins, (plus a couple others whos names escape me right now) I see all of then doing well in the NFL.
The real question is WHEN do we take a WR in this draft.....I know most are saying at 13...and i would have no issue with that. But if this class is really deep at the WR spot, and lets say Higgins or Mims is there at 31, then what would you say? Should we trade back from 13 and maybe land a late 1st, 2nd, and a 4th? We still could land a really good WR, as well as a CB, OL, and maybe an EDGE or DL as well. I would be very surprised if Lynch kept both 1st Round Picks and did not trade back one of them. Plus, I am still optomistic that Hurd will be back. i know that back injuries are not easy to return from right away. While it is not career ending, it can take 1-2 seasons. The last report I read on him was they expect him to be a 'full go' come OTA's. Of course, we have no idea now when the hell OTA's are going to be, but we shall see.
I think there is s slight chance we have a shortened season this year if this damn virus thing takes longer then thought to drop in numbers. I have Cystic Fibrosis and Cancer and ended up in the hospital with that virus. I was never as sick as that. I was very scared I would never see my wife again. I was in the hospital for a week and just got home 3 days ago. However, I am still not feeling well and isolating myself in our den for 10 days. While the symptoms are not as bad as last week, they still are there. I was told it could take another 2 weeks for me to recover....ugh. And I am sure I will have permenant damage to my already CF damaged lungs. ----but I digress, for me football, the combine, the draft, it all acts as a distraction for me from all this bad crap. Its why I like reading all these posts from you guys, so thank you for that. I am hoping the draft doesnt get postponed as I am looking forward to it very much.
Anyway, please all of you stay healthy and safe.
The real question is WHEN do we take a WR in this draft.....I know most are saying at 13...and i would have no issue with that. But if this class is really deep at the WR spot, and lets say Higgins or Mims is there at 31, then what would you say? Should we trade back from 13 and maybe land a late 1st, 2nd, and a 4th? We still could land a really good WR, as well as a CB, OL, and maybe an EDGE or DL as well. I would be very surprised if Lynch kept both 1st Round Picks and did not trade back one of them. Plus, I am still optomistic that Hurd will be back. i know that back injuries are not easy to return from right away. While it is not career ending, it can take 1-2 seasons. The last report I read on him was they expect him to be a 'full go' come OTA's. Of course, we have no idea now when the hell OTA's are going to be, but we shall see.
I think there is s slight chance we have a shortened season this year if this damn virus thing takes longer then thought to drop in numbers. I have Cystic Fibrosis and Cancer and ended up in the hospital with that virus. I was never as sick as that. I was very scared I would never see my wife again. I was in the hospital for a week and just got home 3 days ago. However, I am still not feeling well and isolating myself in our den for 10 days. While the symptoms are not as bad as last week, they still are there. I was told it could take another 2 weeks for me to recover....ugh. And I am sure I will have permenant damage to my already CF damaged lungs. ----but I digress, for me football, the combine, the draft, it all acts as a distraction for me from all this bad crap. Its why I like reading all these posts from you guys, so thank you for that. I am hoping the draft doesnt get postponed as I am looking forward to it very much.
Anyway, please all of you stay healthy and safe.
Apr 19, 2020 at 1:11 AM
- Bimbo_Coles
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Anyone have an idea of what type of comp pick we would get if things hold steady?
If we can snag a 4th rounder, that would make the trade feel a lot better cause it would basically be a 3rd for 5th swap, which is well worth a SB run.
If we can snag a 4th rounder, that would make the trade feel a lot better cause it would basically be a 3rd for 5th swap, which is well worth a SB run.