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Nov 18, 2019 at 1:40 PM
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A visitor asked for a thread on this subject to be opened to allow discussion on the subject. Who is mobile? Is it a good thing? Whatever!
Nov 18, 2019 at 2:05 PM
- lamontb
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That was very nice of you to oblige.
Nov 18, 2019 at 2:26 PM
- thl408
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Do you pronounce it "mo-bill" or "mo-bile"?
Nov 18, 2019 at 2:28 PM
- frozen49er
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You mean QBs from mobile Alabama?
Nov 18, 2019 at 4:25 PM
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Replies specific to Rodgers here. After all this time is he still considered a mobile qb?
Nov 18, 2019 at 4:59 PM
- DRCHOWDER
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Lets be honest here it all started here:
Nov 18, 2019 at 5:21 PM
- LayTheWoodall
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Good thread idea, especially with the evolution of mobile QBs in recent years following the flameouts of RG3 and Kap
Nov 18, 2019 at 6:17 PM
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Kyles next QB should be a 6'2" mobile QB that can pass and run like steve young.
Nov 18, 2019 at 7:31 PM
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Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:Good thread idea, especially with the evolution of mobile QBs in recent years following the flameouts of RG3 and Kap
Mobile QBs know today from Wilson example to be elusive in the pocket and to buy time to make plays on the edges in extending the play in the passing game. They look to pass first and then to run as a last resort if the play breaks down or if the defense leaves the door wide open. They know they're being spied on so they use those numbers as an advantage in the passing game. Wilson never really breaks off a run unless it is at end game right after he's lulled you to sleep not ever running. He's putting defenses in a quandary and now others are following suit. Throw first run second and they're getting defensive looks Brady can never get and it's always advantage mobile QBS. Our defense eats the statues alive but these mobile QBs are able to put us to the test.
Nov 18, 2019 at 8:21 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Do you pronounce it "mo-bill" or "mo-bile"?
"mo-bull" and "mo-beel" depending on the day
Nov 18, 2019 at 8:31 PM
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Lamar is the new prototype of mobile QB who can actually throw, AND has elite running vision.
He's changing the game with those two factors.
He's changing the game with those two factors.
Nov 18, 2019 at 8:57 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Do you pronounce it "mo-bill" or "mo-bile"?
I actually pronounce it closer to "moh-buhl".
Nov 18, 2019 at 9:18 PM
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Chargers could have used a mobile QB there to maybe run it in if the Chiefs were playing coverage.
We have seen on numerous occasions where a mobile QB runs forward to pick up a key 1st down. Hell Mahomes did it earlier.
As much as you'd want a QB who can hit all parts of the field at anytime...one key downs to end a game... you do still have to rely on a good call, receivers doing their job, linemen not f'ing up...and again recievers catching the ball.
But when you can use your legs to pick up 7 to convert a key first down...you don't have to worry about all those things to work all for one play.
The thing with having a regular drop back QB today is, you hope he's good enough to usually have you up on pts so you're not in that scenario in the first place week after week.
So imo... either you have an ELITE pocket passer like Brady...or good to great pocket passer who can move around in the pocket (Rodgers, Jimmy, Ben in his prime)....or a good passer with elite athleticism.
What's scary about Russell is he's moving toward Elite everything...and he's a vet compared to Mahomes whoes next in line...and Lamar who is trying to get there.
Edit- and obviously Rodgers is an Elite passer, just didn't want to put him in the same statue category as Brady.
We have seen on numerous occasions where a mobile QB runs forward to pick up a key 1st down. Hell Mahomes did it earlier.
As much as you'd want a QB who can hit all parts of the field at anytime...one key downs to end a game... you do still have to rely on a good call, receivers doing their job, linemen not f'ing up...and again recievers catching the ball.
But when you can use your legs to pick up 7 to convert a key first down...you don't have to worry about all those things to work all for one play.
The thing with having a regular drop back QB today is, you hope he's good enough to usually have you up on pts so you're not in that scenario in the first place week after week.
So imo... either you have an ELITE pocket passer like Brady...or good to great pocket passer who can move around in the pocket (Rodgers, Jimmy, Ben in his prime)....or a good passer with elite athleticism.
What's scary about Russell is he's moving toward Elite everything...and he's a vet compared to Mahomes whoes next in line...and Lamar who is trying to get there.
Edit- and obviously Rodgers is an Elite passer, just didn't want to put him in the same statue category as Brady.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Nov 18, 2019 at 9:28 PM ]
Nov 18, 2019 at 9:25 PM
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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:Lamar is the new prototype of mobile QB who can actually throw, AND has elite running vision.
He's changing the game with those two factors.
Yes, but Cam and RG3 were agile like Lamar. So was Mike Vick.
But running in the middle of the field is a dangerous game long term. If he was running along the sidelines where he could step out of bounds, great.. or if he slid in the middle of the field with defenders far from him, great.
But Lamar is literally taking hits like a RB in the middle of the field at times. Like how Cam used to.
And Cam is 6'5" 250...and he was STILL getting hurt. Lamar is 6'2 212.. similar to RG3
[ Edited by Afrikan on Nov 18, 2019 at 9:25 PM ]
Nov 18, 2019 at 10:07 PM
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Depends on the type. There are different types of mobility. Without the traditional elite QB traits a mobile QB who lacks escapability is not worth much. Even if they are not the same, I'd take the mobility of a Russell Wilson, Steve Young, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, or Deshaun Watson over the mobility a Colin Kaepernick any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Those guys have an escapability that extends plays as opposed to just fantastic straight line speed with awkward movement that gets taken down easily.