Alex Smith

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Joecool:
This. People see a QB with more talent and think there is no way possible a QB with less ability can get the team to perform better. There is a difference between performing better with stats and big plays as compared to performing better through efficiency.

Tom Brady got the Bucs to perform better through efficiency via his ability of understanding the opponent. Not comparing Tom with Alex. Just saying that Alex has proven this everywhere he has gone. Mahomes is the only QB that was able to outperform Alex and Mahomes is simply at another level.

I used to be the fan that always thought Alex was holding an offense back because he passed up on bigger plays. But as he has transitioned to KC and then to WAS, the guy makes more plays that are there than misses plays that can be big. He also picks and chooses his spots to take over the game. Even in WAS, Alex has made some good end-of-game comebacks.

Alex Smith has a lot of good to provide to a lot of teams that don't have a top 10 QB.

Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

"There are other ways of being efficient! His leadership skills are extremely efficient but there aren't numbers for that.. and every where he goes they win, you cant beat that for efficiency! Did I mention that he had a bad leg injury?"

They win , but can't win 2 playoff games in a row

I've seen some goofy debates on this site over the years. This is certainly top ten.

Any word on where Alex might end up? Think the bears finally give up on MT, draft a project at 20, and have Alex as a bridge?

Might upset Robinson as he was tagged and is going to look to get bank next off-season.

very helpful document...looking for it for a long time.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

Are you suggesting that Tannehill's numbers would approach his stats this year if he had been plugged into Washington's offense?

I find that interesting...

For the record, I don't want to see Alex in SF.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

Are you suggesting that Tannehill's numbers would approach his stats this year if he had been plugged into Washington's offense?

I find that interesting...

For the record, I don't want to see Alex in SF.

I am suggesting that the poster claiming that the worse QB could win more games for the Titans than the better QB, because the worse QB is more efficient, was talking out of his you know what.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Bring him back. If we're still all in on jimmy he's the only backup I can think that might have knowledge to make jimmy better.

It would be worth paying him to confer the knowledge onto jimmy. He's a master game manager.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Bring him back. If we're still all in on jimmy he's the only backup I can think that might have knowledge to make jimmy better.

It would be worth paying him to confer the knowledge onto jimmy. He's a master game manager.

How much money do you realistically see Smith making this season? (try to answer that question without picking what team you think would sign him)

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
How much money do you realistically see Smith making this season? (try to answer that question without picking what team you think would sign him)

I'd pay him 7-8 mill as a backup. As a starter if your team sucks hell make 20

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
How much money do you realistically see Smith making this season? (try to answer that question without picking what team you think would sign him)

I'd pay him 7-8 mill as a backup. As a starter if your team sucks hell make 20

Thats a hard pass for me then. No chance in hell I am paying $36M to my quarterbacks and not have a top 10-15 QB in the room. I'm totally on board with Alex coming in for a couple mil, but not for $8M. Not with how many holes we have.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

Are you suggesting that Tannehill's numbers would approach his stats this year if he had been plugged into Washington's offense?

I find that interesting...

For the record, I don't want to see Alex in SF.

I am suggesting that the poster claiming that the worse QB could win more games for the Titans than the better QB, because the worse QB is more efficient, was talking out of his you know what.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Pull the stats on the type of injury Alex had and the infection. Point is, the dude just defies stats. His recovery was efficient.

Alex is the defier of all things. All he does is manage wins. He was one Kyle Williams fumble from his first SB ring. He was a horrible stab in the back benching away from a possible second SB ring. He is the luckiest QB ever up until the moment he gets benched.

His games are like pulling teeth. But he wins.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Pull the stats on the type of injury Alex had and the infection. Point is, the dude just defies stats. His recovery was efficient.

Alex is the defier of all things. All he does is manage wins. He was one Kyle Williams fumble from his first SB ring. He was a horrible stab in the back benching away from a possible second SB ring. He is the luckiest QB ever up until the moment he gets benched.

His games are like pulling teeth. But he wins.

Alex deserves all the praise in the world for beating that injury and recovering. I will never speak down about how he played because he shouldnt even be playing. But just because he had the injury and beat it, doesnt mean that what he did do on the field didnt happen. He played poorly after coming back from the injury (1000% understandable, and shouldnt be knocked for it). Unfortunately because of injury, this is who Alex is now.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
How much money do you realistically see Smith making this season? (try to answer that question without picking what team you think would sign him)

I'd pay him 7-8 mill as a backup. As a starter if your team sucks hell make 20

Thats a hard pass for me then. No chance in hell I am paying $36M to my quarterbacks and not have a top 10-15 QB in the room. I'm totally on board with Alex coming in for a couple mil, but not for $8M. Not with how many holes we have.

I mean dak just got 40. I think he's about on par with Jimmy.

I think jimmy under the tutelage of Alex > dak.

jimmy without I'd say dak is better by a hair.

I'm just that confident in Alex to improve jimmy so I mean if your all in on jimmy I could think of worse ways they could spend the money.

I attribute a lot of mahomes success to being under Alex for a year. Maybe too much but Alex is elite at managing within his skill set. He's just very limited skill wise.

They will probably waste it on another sheldon day or mckinnon.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

Are you suggesting that Tannehill's numbers would approach his stats this year if he had been plugged into Washington's offense?

I find that interesting...

For the record, I don't want to see Alex in SF.

I am suggesting that the poster claiming that the worse QB could win more games for the Titans than the better QB, because the worse QB is more efficient, was talking out of his you know what.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Pull the stats on the type of injury Alex had and the infection. Point is, the dude just defies stats. His recovery was efficient.

Alex is the defier of all things. All he does is manage wins. He was one Kyle Williams fumble from his first SB ring. He was a horrible stab in the back benching away from a possible second SB ring. He is the luckiest QB ever up until the moment he gets benched.

His games are like pulling teeth. But he wins.

We lost that NFC-CG because of Alex, lest you forget.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
How much money do you realistically see Smith making this season? (try to answer that question without picking what team you think would sign him)

I'd pay him 7-8 mill as a backup. As a starter if your team sucks hell make 20

Thats a hard pass for me then. No chance in hell I am paying $36M to my quarterbacks and not have a top 10-15 QB in the room. I'm totally on board with Alex coming in for a couple mil, but not for $8M. Not with how many holes we have.

I think the idea is to get Jimmy off the books. Bring in Alex as your bridge QB. Then draft a QB if the right guy falls to your lap (not sure if likely since I'm hearing that 4-5 QBs are projected to go top 10)

that would be a ballsy move for the Niners. Seems unlikely since they're risk averse

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Completion percentage
Alex Smith: 66.7%
Ryan Tannehill: 65.5%
Negligible difference that favors Smith

Yards per attempt
Smith: 6.3
Tannehill: 7.9
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

Yards per completion
Smith: 9.4
Tannehill: 12.1
Huge sized difference that favors Tannehill

3rd down conversion %
Smith: 27.3
Tannehill: 45.3
Huge difference that favors Tannehill

So now that your efficiency argument has been proven to be completely absurd, what else do you have for us?

Are you suggesting that Tannehill's numbers would approach his stats this year if he had been plugged into Washington's offense?

I find that interesting...

For the record, I don't want to see Alex in SF.

I am suggesting that the poster claiming that the worse QB could win more games for the Titans than the better QB, because the worse QB is more efficient, was talking out of his you know what.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Pull the stats on the type of injury Alex had and the infection. Point is, the dude just defies stats. His recovery was efficient.

Alex is the defier of all things. All he does is manage wins. He was one Kyle Williams fumble from his first SB ring. He was a horrible stab in the back benching away from a possible second SB ring. He is the luckiest QB ever up until the moment he gets benched.

His games are like pulling teeth. But he wins.

We lost that NFC-CG because of Alex, lest you forget.

FTFY