Kerry Hyder, DE

Originally posted by pdc20:
Not bad. Not bad at all. The depth of the D-Line with guys like Omenihu, Willis and now Hyder could be one of the strenghts of the Niners again next season. I still hope they draft a speed rusher with the second rounder but it will be difficult with a late second rounder.

I forgot about Omenihu...

Really need him to take a leap this year.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DrEll:
He was dirt cheap. Why not give him a 3 year deal. If he performs this year he'll be signed somewhere else for more money next year.

doubt his agent would advise anyone sign a multi year deal after a down season.

Cause he is a 30 year old fringe player no way would he receive a three year deal.

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Kind of wish we would've just brought back Key instead, but I guess we saw Hyder as comparable for much cheaper.

Wait until we get Key back cheap next year. Just rotate him and Kyder.

Great point, that is entirely possible.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Kind of wish we would've just brought back Key instead, but I guess we saw Hyder as comparable for much cheaper.

Wait until we get Key back cheap next year. Just rotate him and Kyder.

Great point, that is entirely possible.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by thl408:
I hope the 49ers are getting the 2020 Hyder.

Are we getting the 2020 coverage unit?

Probably not. But Hyder didn't have Bosa most of the year and was our premier edge rusher. Now, Hyder is no. 2 at best with AA at 3T.

He also has guys like Omenihu, Ebukam, and Willis in the rotation. I still want a speed rusher no later than round 3.

BPA.

And I hope BPA is a speed rusher in the 2nd or 3rd.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Kind of wish we would've just brought back Key instead, but I guess we saw Hyder as comparable for much cheaper.

Wait until we get Key back cheap next year. Just rotate him and Kyder.

Great point, that is entirely possible.

As I said on the other thread, we will be a destination for 1 year deal for DL and I'm cool with that. They know they get to work with Kocurek and they will flourish in his system. We pay them cheap and they get paid on their next stop. We'll just bring them back if they bust on their next stop. Its a win for both sides honestly and Kocurek will just find his next project... Ridgeway maybe? Willis, Omenihu, healthy Kinlaw... can always get more thru the draft and another low key FA signing. We'll be alright with this unit. Welcome back Hyder.

I'd rather we develop a young pass rusher over re signing Key

I have no idea what Seattle was thinking moving him inside after seeing him ball out as a wide 9 edge rusher, but I'm so happy to have him back. The dude is so crafty with his wide array of moves. Our edge group definitely got better today.

Originally posted by lamontb:
I'd rather we develop a young pass rusher over re signing Key

Why can't they do both, Key looked better inside on passing downs than outside anyway.

Originally posted by Heroism:

If you're happy I'm happy. I remember you saying SEA moved Hyder inside on many downs? Besides that, SEA went with a lot of Bear fronts last season and that has the opposite effect of the wide9 when it comes to passing rushing edge players. Hyder is good insurance in case Willis isn't effective.

Hyder was effective in the wide9. SEA signed him and basically had him acting like a 3-4DE. Pretty stupid when you think about it.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/2/3/22915965/kj-wright-shares-why-seattle-seahawks-didnt-bring-him-back-2021-mayowa-dunlap-hyder-rush-bear-scheme
In the bear front the Seahawks rolled out in order to slow the under center, wide zone attacks of the division rival Rams and San Francisco 49ers, the team's personnel needs were different than they had been in seasons past. In particular, the bear front the team adopted functioned much more along the lines of a 3-4, needing just two off ball linebackers and two outside linebackers who functioned more like defensive ends.

Thus, instead of retaining Wright, the team used free agency to sign traditional defensive ends like Carlos Dunlap, Kerry Hyder, Benson Mayowa.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I have no idea what Seattle was thinking moving him inside after seeing him ball out as a wide 9 edge rusher, but I'm so happy to have him back. The dude is so crafty with his wide array of moves. Our edge group definitely got better today.

I was typing up my post when you posted this. Yeah let's get Hyder back in the scheme that saw his best season.

People act like since we signed Hyder we are all done addressing edge lol. Dude has under one million guaranteed for one year and this draft is deep with edge talent. People need to chillax.

Now sign Carlos Dunlap and take a DE in the draft. 😎. The best D lines have multiple guys who can rotate in to keep everyone fresh. I love this!

Originally posted by 49erGlory:
People act like since we signed Hyder we are all done addressing edge lol. Dude has under one million guaranteed for one year and this draft is deep with edge talent. People need to chillax.

Yup. In no way would the front office view this as a multiyear solution. I agree I don't think this changes their draft plans. Knowing how much this front office loves to draft DL, I doubt signing Hyder changes their draft plans. Just gives competition for snaps between Hyder, Ebukam, Willis which is never a bad thing.