Will the 2020 NFL season be canceled due to COVID19?

Originally posted by ritz126:

i dont believe this one bit

but if it were true and people go out and this virus never dies and always stays in public then yes no sports

Asking players to play when they are at risk of catching an extremely contagious disease which has a good chance at killing them and their friends/teammates/family is just cruel

Errrmm. I think it is more complex than that.

Right now we need a vaccine or a treatment. Either will do, both would be better. But what will we do if, like the common cold (say) we can get neither?

Saying "no sport" is very easy but it isn't the full answer. What about all the other social interactions? We will, sometime, go back to work although it may be a very different environment. Sooner or later restaurants, pubs, bars etc will come back as will schools, colleges etc. So there will come a time when society gives up looking for a cure or a vaccine and accepts it as part of the landscape. The effort will then be put into mitigating measures. Facemasks, surface sprays (already on trial in Asia), physical separation etc. And whatever other ideas can be developed.

Then people are going to have to make a judgement call. Because by then more and better information will be available. The elderly and the sick are going to have to continue to hide. It is possible that the human race will develop an acceptance of it, in much the same way as we accept colds, flu and automobile deaths. Obviously we continue to work on minimising them, but life goes on.

In 20 years, without a vaccine or treatment, a generation will be reaching maturity who simply accept these deaths, as we accept all the other deaths. And with all possible mitigation life will go on.

Originally posted by English:
Errrmm. I think it is more complex than that.

Right now we need a vaccine or a treatment. Either will do, both would be better. But what will we do if, like the common cold (say) we can get neither?

Saying "no sport" is very easy but it isn't the full answer. What about all the other social interactions? We will, sometime, go back to work although it may be a very different environment. Sooner or later restaurants, pubs, bars etc will come back as will schools, colleges etc. So there will come a time when society gives up looking for a cure or a vaccine and accepts it as part of the landscape. The effort will then be put into mitigating measures. Facemasks, surface sprays (already on trial in Asia), physical separation etc. And whatever other ideas can be developed.

Then people are going to have to make a judgement call. Because by then more and better information will be available. The elderly and the sick are going to have to continue to hide. It is possible that the human race will develop an acceptance of it, in much the same way as we accept colds, flu and automobile deaths. Obviously we continue to work on minimising them, but life goes on.

In 20 years, without a vaccine or treatment, a generation will be reaching maturity who simply accept these deaths, as we accept all the other deaths. And with all possible mitigation life will go on.

If no vaccine is produced, then herd immunity will take over among the general population. Still concerned about the elderly and less healthier individuals. They will have to be extra cautious unfortunately.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

If no vaccine is produced, then herd immunity will take over among the general population. Still concerned about the elderly and less healthier individuals. They will have to be extra cautious unfortunately.

Maybe. But there is no guarantee. Some sources are claiming that whilst a vaccine might give a longer period of immunity, catching it might not give a very long period of immunity. Like only weeks.

Originally posted by English:
Errrmm. I think it is more complex than that.

Right now we need a vaccine or a treatment. Either will do, both would be better. But what will we do if, like the common cold (say) we can get neither?

Saying "no sport" is very easy but it isn't the full answer. What about all the other social interactions? We will, sometime, go back to work although it may be a very different environment. Sooner or later restaurants, pubs, bars etc will come back as will schools, colleges etc. So there will come a time when society gives up looking for a cure or a vaccine and accepts it as part of the landscape. The effort will then be put into mitigating measures. Facemasks, surface sprays (already on trial in Asia), physical separation etc. And whatever other ideas can be developed.

Then people are going to have to make a judgement call. Because by then more and better information will be available. The elderly and the sick are going to have to continue to hide. It is possible that the human race will develop an acceptance of it, in much the same way as we accept colds, flu and automobile deaths. Obviously we continue to work on minimising them, but life goes on.

In 20 years, without a vaccine or treatment, a generation will be reaching maturity who simply accept these deaths, as we accept all the other deaths. And with all possible mitigation life will go on.

but the common cold is caused by hundreds of different viruses which mutate often enough where it would be impossible to get ahead of it so a cure would just be a waste of money and resources especially considering the lack of severity of getting a cold. The flue gets a yearly vaccine because they are very few strains of influenza so a vaccine could be developed

The COVID-19 virus up to date has shown a pretty stable genome so a vaccine can be developed for this. The 1917 spanish flu pandemic disappeared without a vaccine so it will only be here as long as we allow it by going out and allowing it to spread.

Originally posted by ritz126:

but the common cold is caused by hundreds of different viruses which mutate often enough where it would be impossible to get ahead of it so a cure would just be a waste of money and resources especially considering the lack of severity of getting a cold. The flue gets a yearly vaccine because they are very few strains of influenza so a vaccine could be developed

The COVID-19 virus up to date has shown a pretty stable genome so a vaccine can be developed for this. The 1917 spanish flu pandemic disappeared without a vaccine so it will only be here as long as we allow it by going out and allowing it to spread.

It's a little early to be too dogmatic. Very early days yet.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
If no vaccine is produced, then herd immunity will take over among the general population. Still concerned about the elderly and less healthier individuals. They will have to be extra cautious unfortunately.

Maybe. But there is no guarantee. Some sources are claiming that whilst a vaccine might give a longer period of immunity, catching it might not give a very long period of immunity. Like only weeks.

we still don't know how long the antibodies will last

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/south-korean-studies-suggest-antibodies-protect-covid-19/story?id=70312111

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by English:
Errrmm. I think it is more complex than that.

Right now we need a vaccine or a treatment. Either will do, both would be better. But what will we do if, like the common cold (say) we can get neither?

Saying "no sport" is very easy but it isn't the full answer. What about all the other social interactions? We will, sometime, go back to work although it may be a very different environment. Sooner or later restaurants, pubs, bars etc will come back as will schools, colleges etc. So there will come a time when society gives up looking for a cure or a vaccine and accepts it as part of the landscape. The effort will then be put into mitigating measures. Facemasks, surface sprays (already on trial in Asia), physical separation etc. And whatever other ideas can be developed.

Then people are going to have to make a judgement call. Because by then more and better information will be available. The elderly and the sick are going to have to continue to hide. It is possible that the human race will develop an acceptance of it, in much the same way as we accept colds, flu and automobile deaths. Obviously we continue to work on minimising them, but life goes on.

In 20 years, without a vaccine or treatment, a generation will be reaching maturity who simply accept these deaths, as we accept all the other deaths. And with all possible mitigation life will go on.

but the common cold is caused by hundreds of different viruses which mutate often enough where it would be impossible to get ahead of it so a cure would just be a waste of money and resources especially considering the lack of severity of getting a cold. The flue gets a yearly vaccine because they are very few strains of influenza so a vaccine could be developed

The COVID-19 virus up to date has shown a pretty stable genome so a vaccine can be developed for this. The 1917 spanish flu pandemic disappeared without a vaccine so it will only be here as long as we allow it by going out and allowing it to spread.

Not so fast......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1

The problem is the virus is proceeding at different rates around the country. The east and west coast got hit first and are starting to see a drop in cases but that's not because the virus is gone. All the distancing and businesses shutting down obviously slowed it down. Now some southern states and midwest states want to reopen businesses and they are bound to see a rise in cases if they do.

The NFL can't afford to try and play and risk an outbreak among the players. If one or 2 guys test positive they would need to shut it down for at least 3 weeks. You can't play a season with that sword hanging over your head. Schedule games then cancel games. Re-schedule and then hope nobody else tests positive. Meanwhile the networks are going crazy trying to figure out who to schedule. And of course, no fans in the stands.

Governor Newsom reaffirmed today that until a "treatment" has been developed and tested for the virus, there will be no mass gathering events. If that holds, there will be no NFL this fall with fans.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The problem is the virus is proceeding at different rates around the country. The east and west coast got hit first and are starting to see a drop in cases but that's not because the virus is gone. All the distancing and businesses shutting down obviously slowed it down. Now some southern states and midwest states want to reopen businesses and they are bound to see a rise in cases if they do.

The NFL can't afford to try and play and risk an outbreak among the players. If one or 2 guys test positive they would need to shut it down for at least 3 weeks. You can't play a season with that sword hanging over your head. Schedule games then cancel games. Re-schedule and then hope nobody else tests positive. Meanwhile the networks are going crazy trying to figure out who to schedule. And of course, no fans in the stands.

its also unfair i mean can you really declare a winner with so many players being out?

From what i hear if you are symptomatic this is a b***h of a virus and players will lose some serious muscle mass

Originally posted by ritz126:
but the common cold is caused by hundreds of different viruses which mutate often enough where it would be impossible to get ahead of it so a cure would just be a waste of money and resources especially considering the lack of severity of getting a cold. The flue gets a yearly vaccine because they are very few strains of influenza so a vaccine could be developed

The COVID-19 virus up to date has shown a pretty stable genome so a vaccine can be developed for this. The 1917 spanish flu pandemic disappeared without a vaccine so it will only be here as long as we allow it by going out and allowing it to spread.

Here is a focused article by a neuroradiologist that makes a strong case for ending the tight shut-down. If followed, this would allow the season to happen, even with fans. If schools are going to open in California in July (per governor Newsom), training camps could as well.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by English:

Errrmm. I think it is more complex than that.

Right now we need a vaccine or a treatment. Either will do, both would be better. But what will we do if, like the common cold (say) we can get neither?

Saying "no sport" is very easy but it isn't the full answer. What about all the other social interactions? We will, sometime, go back to work although it may be a very different environment. Sooner or later restaurants, pubs, bars etc will come back as will schools, colleges etc. So there will come a time when society gives up looking for a cure or a vaccine and accepts it as part of the landscape. The effort will then be put into mitigating measures. Facemasks, surface sprays (already on trial in Asia), physical separation etc. And whatever other ideas can be developed.

Then people are going to have to make a judgement call. Because by then more and better information will be available. The elderly and the sick are going to have to continue to hide. It is possible that the human race will develop an acceptance of it, in much the same way as we accept colds, flu and automobile deaths. Obviously we continue to work on minimising them, but life goes on.

In 20 years, without a vaccine or treatment, a generation will be reaching maturity who simply accept these deaths, as we accept all the other deaths. And with all possible mitigation life will go on.

but the common cold is caused by hundreds of different viruses which mutate often enough where it would be impossible to get ahead of it so a cure would just be a waste of money and resources especially considering the lack of severity of getting a cold. The flue gets a yearly vaccine because they are very few strains of influenza so a vaccine could be developed

The COVID-19 virus up to date has shown a pretty stable genome so a vaccine can be developed for this. The 1917 spanish flu pandemic disappeared without a vaccine so it will only be here as long as we allow it by going out and allowing it to spread.

There are multiple flu virus strains.
They actually make a "guess" which strain may hit the hardest & that's the vaccine that they put out. They could be right, they could be wrong.

I think the full nfl schedule will happen..
Can't shut our lives down forever.

Originally posted by dj43:

Governor Newsom reaffirmed today that until a "treatment" has been developed and tested for the virus, there will be no mass gathering events. If that holds, there will be no NFL this fall with fans.

Yea and it's to bad Newsom is a complete idiot.

Originally posted by dj43:
Governor Newsom reaffirmed today that until a "treatment" has been developed and tested for the virus, there will be no mass gathering events. If that holds, there will be no NFL this fall with fans.

I can tolerate games without fans. I just want the game back but safety above all..

Was listening to 95.7 The Game and they were reporting that Oxford University has found a vaccine and are currently testing it on humans. Vaccine should be available by September. Let's f**ken go!!