Javon Kinlaw is a Jet!-Pick #14, 2020 NFL Draft.

The kid is trying to figure out what works. He isn't going to win every battle, but will keep getting better. Today he was winning his one on ones.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
We have no patience here on the webzone

Patience on the webzone is spelled patients as in mental patients.

Agree.

Originally posted by northoakland510:
The kid is trying to figure out what works. He isn't going to win every battle, but will keep getting better. Today he was winning his one on ones.

He'll figure it out, those hand techniques etc... take a while to learn, and when he does -- man o man, watch out!

Originally posted by tyab:
Here come all the people saying Kinlaw is a bust. Smh. Maiocco barrows already hating on our players jus like they always do. Kinlaw is a fine defensive tackle and is gonna wreak havoc maybe this not this year but when he refined his technique. We have a damn good football team and kocureck bosa ford armstead will help develop Kinlaw into an all pro and a hall of famer. The hating needs to stop on our team from the media and fanbase but unfortunately it won't. So I expect everybody to predict us to go 4-12 next season because we're the 49ers and apparently we have a bad offensive line and Kinlaw sucks. Smh

Dude, you got to take a deep breath and step back from the ledge.

Maiocco is simply saying that Kinlaw is young and raw, and may not be developed enough to count on this season. Almost every scouting report pre-draft said that that he, in his current form, has questionable technique and a somewhat limited skillset (masked by his ridiculous natural frame and ability).

What we have here is are reputable reporters making legitimate, objective critiques, and then somehow you react with this emotional response as if Maiocco/Barrows are calling him a "bust" and personally attacking Kinlaw's character. Get a grip, bro, this isn't a good look.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by tyab:
Here come all the people saying Kinlaw is a bust. Smh. Maiocco barrows already hating on our players jus like they always do. Kinlaw is a fine defensive tackle and is gonna wreak havoc maybe this not this year but when he refined his technique. We have a damn good football team and kocureck bosa ford armstead will help develop Kinlaw into an all pro and a hall of famer. The hating needs to stop on our team from the media and fanbase but unfortunately it won't. So I expect everybody to predict us to go 4-12 next season because we're the 49ers and apparently we have a bad offensive line and Kinlaw sucks. Smh

Dude, you got to take a deep breath and step back from the ledge.

Maiocco is simply saying that Kinlaw is young and raw, and may not be developed enough to count on this season. Almost every scouting report pre-draft said that that he, in his current form, has questionable technique and a somewhat limited skillset (masked by his ridiculous natural frame and ability).

What we have here is are reputable reporters making legitimate, objective critiques, and then somehow you react with this emotional response as if Maiocco/Barrows are calling him a "bust" and personally attacking Kinlaw's character. Get a grip, bro, this isn't a good look.

Tyab sounds exactly like a former WZ account named Goldensnake He thought every beat writer and WZ fan was a hater lol.

I was saying all through the draft process that Kinlaw is raw as s**t. Absolute unit as a DT prospect, if you were to build a DT it would look like him. Kid needs snaps, coaching, refinement etc. Chris Jones was my comp, same thing coming out of Mississippi State. Took him a couple seasons to get to where he is.

I think MM is completely correct that Kinlaw is gonna be more effective taking on double-teams and stuffing the run yr 1. His pass rush skills will need some time. Either way having a body like that in the middle of the field is gonna help vs the run and help AA/Bosa/Ford etc get to the QB.

49er fans need to have a little patience with Kin.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I was saying all through the draft process that Kinlaw is raw as s**t. Absolute unit as a DT prospect, if you were to build a DT it would look like him. Kid needs snaps, coaching, refinement etc. Chris Jones was my comp, same thing coming out of Mississippi State. Took him a couple seasons to get to where he is.

I think MM is completely correct that Kinlaw is gonna be more effective taking on double-teams and stuffing the run yr 1. His pass rush skills will need some time. Either way having a body like that in the middle of the field is gonna help vs the run and help AA/Bosa/Ford etc get to the QB.

49er fans need to have a little patience with Kin.

Just wait till he has a respectable 4 sack season but Buckner balls out with 15

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I was saying all through the draft process that Kinlaw is raw as s**t. Absolute unit as a DT prospect, if you were to build a DT it would look like him. Kid needs snaps, coaching, refinement etc. Chris Jones was my comp, same thing coming out of Mississippi State. Took him a couple seasons to get to where he is.

I think MM is completely correct that Kinlaw is gonna be more effective taking on double-teams and stuffing the run yr 1. His pass rush skills will need some time. Either way having a body like that in the middle of the field is gonna help vs the run and help AA/Bosa/Ford etc get to the QB.

49er fans need to have a little patience with Kin.

Just wait till he has a respectable 4 sack season but Buckner balls out with 15

You know who will be in full force complaining about it...

they're not the same player and people need to get that. This was a long-term move to help pay for guys like Kittle and TW.

Anyone who looks at sacks as the measure of an interior DL's worth doesn't know shat about the position. There is so much more to playing 3-Tech or 1-0 Tech than sacking the QB. It's why guys like Cowboy, Fletcher Cox, etc. all were perennial Pro-Bowlers with single digit sack seasons. So if anyone wants to go off on sack totals their opinion isn't worth much listening to.

Originally posted by RasSuar:
Anyone who looks at sacks as the measure of an interior DL's worth doesn't know shat about the position. There is so much more to playing 3-Tech or 1-0 Tech than sacking the QB. It's why guys like Cowboy, Fletcher Cox, etc. all were perennial Pro-Bowlers with single sack seasons. So if anyone wants to go off on sack totals their opinion isn't worth much listening to.

Agreed, still gonna be plenty of whining end of the day.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RasSuar:

Anyone who looks at sacks as the measure of an interior DL's worth doesn't know shat about the position. There is so much more to playing 3-Tech or 1-0 Tech than sacking the QB. It's why guys like Cowboy, Fletcher Cox, etc. all were perennial Pro-Bowlers with single sack seasons. So if anyone wants to go off on sack totals their opinion isn't worth much listening to.

Agreed, still gonna be plenty of whining end of the day.

We could win the super bowl and some would still find something to complain about lol

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I was saying all through the draft process that Kinlaw is raw as s**t. Absolute unit as a DT prospect, if you were to build a DT it would look like him. Kid needs snaps, coaching, refinement etc. Chris Jones was my comp, same thing coming out of Mississippi State. Took him a couple seasons to get to where he is.

I think MM is completely correct that Kinlaw is gonna be more effective taking on double-teams and stuffing the run yr 1. His pass rush skills will need some time. Either way having a body like that in the middle of the field is gonna help vs the run and help AA/Bosa/Ford etc get to the QB.

49er fans need to have a little patience with Kin.

Just wait till he has a respectable 4 sack season but Buckner balls out with 15

Watch soccer or something you can actually understand. Buckner wasn't good his rookie season. Chris Jones was horrible his rookie season. Sacks are not the ultimate meaurement for DT. Don't talk about topics you are clueless.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Watch soccer or something you can actually understand. Buckner wasn't good his rookie season. Chris Jones was horrible his rookie season. Sacks are not the ultimate meaurement for DT. Don't talk about topics you are clueless.

Oh were you thinking I was being sarcastic? No seriously 4 sacks is solid for a run stuffing DT in a rookie year I don't think Buckner will have 15 sacks but he's capable of 10+ Im actually in favor of the switch from the cap space perspective. Shouldn't get so butthurt and start attacking your 9er brethren calling then incomprehensible and clueless. From what I remember Buckner was really solid his rookie season

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I was saying all through the draft process that Kinlaw is raw as s**t. Absolute unit as a DT prospect, if you were to build a DT it would look like him. Kid needs snaps, coaching, refinement etc. Chris Jones was my comp, same thing coming out of Mississippi State. Took him a couple seasons to get to where he is.

I think MM is completely correct that Kinlaw is gonna be more effective taking on double-teams and stuffing the run yr 1. His pass rush skills will need some time. Either way having a body like that in the middle of the field is gonna help vs the run and help AA/Bosa/Ford etc get to the QB.

49er fans need to have a little patience with Kin.

Just wait till he has a respectable 4 sack season but Buckner balls out with 15

Watch soccer or something you can actually understand. Buckner wasn't good his rookie season. Chris Jones was horrible his rookie season. Sacks are not the ultimate meaurement for DT. Don't talk about topics you are clueless.

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Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Watch soccer or something you can actually understand. Buckner wasn't good his rookie season. Chris Jones was horrible his rookie season. Sacks are not the ultimate meaurement for DT. Don't talk about topics you are clueless.

Oh were you thinking I was being sarcastic? No seriously 4 sacks is solid for a run stuffing DT in a rookie year I don't think Buckner will have 15 sacks but he's capable of 10+ Im actually in favor of the switch from the cap space perspective. Shouldn't get so butthurt and start attacking your 9er brethren calling then incomprehensible and clueless. From what I remember Buckner was really solid his rookie season

Buckner had the same issues Kinlaw has right now. A physical freak with terrible technique coming out of college. He started his rookie season with bad hand placement, pad level, etc. He wasn't a technician and had a rough year, remember that season we had the worst defense in franchise history. There were times Buckner was winning because he was playing lesser competition or he was just stronger and still creating pressure with brute force. He didn't have anyone around him to help him and the coaching staff with Chip Kelly had no idea what they were doing.
Kinlaw is the same kind of prospect but he is arriving in an exponentially better situation than Buckner did. A SuperBowl contending team, a DL stacked with studs and a great coaching staff. I expect him to finish the season with something around 5 sacks, decent pressure, good run stopping skills and a solid grade around 65 or 70. He will be rotating with Jones, Thomas, Street and Taylor or Givens.