Javon Kinlaw is a Jet!-Pick #14, 2020 NFL Draft.

You guys are insane. Give the kid some time.

He's struggling now?

Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

Originally posted by Since07:
I think it's more him filling Buckners shadow than ST the thing is they are two different kind of players at the same position. I'm not worried about Kinlaw we are on point drafting DL and LBs even though ST has been a bit of a bust hes not bad I have to go back to Kentwan Balmer and Eli Harold the last time we drafted busts even our later round picks at those positions have been real solid

It's not just Buckner. Even if Kinlaw never is as good as Buckner it's not a problem. If Armstead also fails to live up to his contract AND kinlaw falls far short of expectations (average-below average starter), then Buckner's shadow looms large. Remember, the calculus was Armstead + 1st rounder versus Buckner.

With that in mind, it's clear that Kinlaw is struggling a little in camp, otherwise Salah would not say that he's trying to find his way. That being said, Does it mean that he's going to bust just because he's struggling for the 1st week? Of course not. Players develop late all the time. But superstars often flash, even early in their careers. It makes it less likely that he plays at a pro-bowl level early on. This is not unexpected, but does dash the the most optimistic of hopes.

I do love how posters here freak out if you even dare suggest that Kinlaw's early camp struggles are a bad thing when projecting his future.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

I'd strongly prefer for our 1st round pick to at least be regularly whipping our 5th round pick at the very least.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

It's not that, he's trying all he knows which was overpowering and out-athleting people which, as he's finding out, won't work all the time. We all knew this so none of these early struggles should suprise anyone, people are just impatient around here

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

It's not that, he's trying all he knows which was overpowering and out-athleting people which, as he's finding out, won't work all the time. We all knew this so none of these early struggles should suprise anyone, people are just impatient around here

so you are saying the coaches are not teaching him anything new and telling him to just go out there and just try to push people around ?

Originally posted by dhp318:

With that in mind, it's clear that Kinlaw is struggling a little in camp, otherwise Salah would not say that he's trying to find his way. That being said, Does it mean that he's going to bust just because he's struggling for the 1st week?

Well let's add some context tho,...

1) Is that the same interview where he said that he's improving every day?

2) Would you prefer that, year after year, our coaches put our top picks on a pedestal right away before they've arrived?

I think what Shanahan does is alot more effective. Don't needlessly talk them up,....no matter how much fans want to READ it. Keep them hungry and keep them working.

Originally posted by random49er:
Well let's add some context tho,...

1) Is that the same interview where he said that he's improving every day?

2) Would you prefer that, year after year, our coaches put our top picks on a pedestal right away before they've arrived?

I think what Shanahan does is alot more effective. Don't needlessly talk them up,....no matter how much fans want to READ it. Keep them hungry and keep them working.

Why would the alternative be to put them on a pedestal every day? Did I ever say I had a problem with Saleh?
The alternative is for the rookies to crush it in camp.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

It's not that, he's trying all he knows which was overpowering and out-athleting people which, as he's finding out, won't work all the time. We all knew this so none of these early struggles should suprise anyone, people are just impatient around here

so you are saying the coaches are not teaching him anything new and telling him to just go out there and just try to push people around ?

Is that what I said? I'm saying that the likely reason he's not experiencing much success is because he's reverting back to what he's most comfortable doing as often is the case with rookies and maybe doing the opposite of what you are saying and trying to incorporate what is being taught. Pretty sure the media and maybe even the coaches say the same thing

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

It's not that, he's trying all he knows which was overpowering and out-athleting people which, as he's finding out, won't work all the time. We all knew this so none of these early struggles should suprise anyone, people are just impatient around here

so you are saying the coaches are not teaching him anything new and telling him to just go out there and just try to push people around ?

Is that what I said? I'm saying that the likely reason he's not experiencing much success is because he's reverting back to what he's most comfortable doing as often is the case with rookies and maybe doing the opposite of what you are saying and trying to incorporate what is being taught. Pretty sure the media and maybe even the coaches say the same thing

He now knows that bullying is not going to work most of the time, so now he has to apply new techniques which is a work in progress.

There were people who thought Kinlaw was better than Buckner.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Kinlaw will be fine. So what he's getting beat in practice, I think that says more about the O-line than Kinlaw. Imagine if Kinlaw beat Tomlinson, people would be calling for his head.

i see it as more of Kinlaw is trying to use what he's being taught and applying it in practice. I will wait to hold my judgement when the real games are actually played

Yeah, he's learning on the fly - give him time to get it down. He'll be fine come game day.

The kid is raw and we all knew it since they drafted him.

Why is everyone acting so surprised?

Originally posted by pdizo916:

There were people who thought Kinlaw was better than Buckner.

He might end up being better than Buckner. Just not this year