Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Let's hope Kinlaw makes us not keep missing Buckner.
I miss big uce 99.
i really hope the choice of moving Buckner instead of Armstead was not a Saleh move.
I feel like we're going to regret that move forever.
Give me a break man. Buckner was a great player and person but holy overreaction.
What did we win with Buckner before Bosa/Ford got here? Before Warner turned into one of the best linebackers in the game?
He's not Aaron Donald. Losing him isn't going to break this franchise for crying out loud. It wasn't Buckner for Kinlaw. Not sure how many times it has to be said.
The move allowed us to retain a lot of talent last year in an attempt to make another run at the SB. Just because the year was a fail with all the injuries doesn't mean the move didn't make sense at the time.
It's very likely without Buckner being traded we don't have Kinlaw(certainty), Aiyuk(possibly), Verrett, Brunskill and some other players we were able to sign last year and then retain this offseason due to the cap savings we got moving him last offseason.
We didn't trade a dominant QB, DE, LT or CB. As good as Buckner was his position and his level of play at that position isn't something to haunt a franchise for years.
I'd rather make the move that they made and keep guys like Kittle, Warner and Bosa than extend Buckner to a huge deal and possibly not have the space to keep one of those guys.
my point is Buckner> Armstead.
We could have paid the little extra for Buckner to keep him and been fine. Let Armstead go or trade him.
My question is what has Armstead done when Bosa, Ford, Warner when these guys weren't around? Nothing
Buckner at least was solid since day 1 and only got better. He's no Donald, correct. But he was still solid and better than Armstead and it's not even close.
Is that a point or a fact? I'm pretty sure Armstead's mom would agree with that.
It wasn't Buckner or Armstead situation. It was Buckner vs Armstead, Ward, Kinlaw, and a bunch of other players while also balancing the future state of the roster. The team saw several players on the roster they knew would demand top of their position salaries or close to it. Buckner simply played a position which didn't merit that type of deal based on what they thought.
And we couldn't trade Armstead, he was a free agent. Nor would he fetch nearly as much in trade even if we could trade him. Armstead also plays DE and inside. His position versatility makes him valuable in that way.
I think Armstead never sees the big money on his contract unless he kills it this year. They made the move looking to keep as much of their SB roster in place while ensuring they have depth to make another run. We'll see what happens this year but either way our defense even with all the injuries produced at a high level without him so how valuable could you really claim he was? I mean we'd all love to keep him but his loss wasn't as detrimental as you or others claim. Certainly nowhere near "regret this move forever" territory.