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Sep 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM
- rxrunner
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Sep 11, 2021 at 10:40 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by rxrunner:
bust
shouldve kept buckner
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Sep 11, 2021 at 11:17 AM
- rxrunner
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by rxrunner:
bust
shouldve kept buckner
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just like the front office for letting go of defo
Sep 11, 2021 at 11:38 AM
- mitpdub
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Originally posted by rxrunner:
bust
shouldve kept buckner
Not calling Kinlaw a bust yet, but I wish we kept D Buck instead of AA who was a one year wonder.
DBuck never got hurt, his only problem was his agent wanted to play hard ball and Lynch thought he could be cute by sending him to Indy. Now afterwards would Lynch do that again ? Probably not. The Colts now have the #2 run D (2020 season) and we had a bunch of signings and most money (Ansah,Hyder was good but lost). Should have, could have worked a better deal with DBuck.
Sep 11, 2021 at 1:28 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by rxrunner:
just like the front office for letting go of defo
Structure of payment is much different to AA. You want to keep DeFo then they shouldn't have paid Jimmy all that after 5 games.
Sep 11, 2021 at 2:13 PM
- 9moon
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by rxrunner:
bust
shouldve kept buckner
Not calling Kinlaw a bust yet, but I wish we kept D Buck instead of AA who was a one year wonder.
DBuck never got hurt, his only problem was his agent wanted to play hard ball and Lynch thought he could be cute by sending him to Indy. Now afterwards would Lynch do that again ? Probably not. The Colts now have the #2 run D (2020 season) and we had a bunch of signings and most money (Ansah,Hyder was good but lost). Should have, could have worked a better deal with DBuck.
lol... WE SHOULDA GONE FOR THE OT!!!
Sep 11, 2021 at 2:20 PM
- SLCNiner
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by rxrunner:
just like the front office for letting go of defo
Structure of payment is much different to AA. You want to keep DeFo then they shouldn't have paid Jimmy all that after 5 games.
I agree with that, but had they not paid him after those 5 games, they would have paid him more after the SB.
Sep 11, 2021 at 3:36 PM
- 9moon
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by rxrunner:
just like the front office for letting go of defo
Structure of payment is much different to AA. You want to keep DeFo then they shouldn't have paid Jimmy all that after 5 games.
I agree with that, but had they not paid him after those 5 games, they would have paid him more after the SB.
EZ for you to say that NOW, but I'm pretty sure you weren't saying that after Jimmy's 1st five games... and IF Mac Jones or Fields turn out to be better than Baby Boy Lance, then what ?
.... ANDDDDDD, had Shanny ran the ball more against KC, then no one will be calling for Jimmy to be traded or let go..
Sep 11, 2021 at 4:50 PM
- Black49razor
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Originally posted by rxrunner:
bust
shouldve kept buckner
This
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:11 PM
- elguapo
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Nice post GM. Hear hear
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
But they should right? You don't get props for doing what's expected and this still a low return rate on the number of pics invested since 2016 at that level.
Show me a team that gets it right every single yr….according to FO over the past 5 yrs, SF ranks 4th overall in draft return
Key words "overall draft return" vs rounds 1-4. And I never say something as ridiculous as they need to make every draft choice right. If you need hyperbole to make your case, it's already weak bud.
I'm willing to bet Kittle and Warner are covering a lot. The thing is we don't look at "overall draft returns over 5 years" when we talk about choosing players as if the draft happens every 5 years. Given the choices in rounds between players, you compare who was was chosen to who was available and hope your team gets most of em right, usually a higher return on the higher picks. However because no team gets it perfectly doesn't absolve a team of taking a really bad pick. It's all contextual.
Come on NY, by this crazed logic you're really going to sell Hurd, Williams, Thomas, and Pettis are okay picks? And now Kinlaw? I get it though the team can never ever ever do any wrong - well except keeping Garrapolo right? 😁
Yeah hyperbole is strong with young skywalker
Like I said before, nobody is "jumping off a cliff" no need to use hyperbole yet again. Everyone is concerned because this seems to be an ongoing issue which is completely justified and should not be dismissed like he often says. Hopefully he can manage it through his career but it should be a concern. If you are denying this.....well that is straight out denial.
[ Edited by elguapo on Sep 11, 2021 at 5:12 PM ]
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:35 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
But they should right? You don't get props for doing what's expected and this still a low return rate on the number of pics invested since 2016 at that level.
Show me a team that gets it right every single yr….according to FO over the past 5 yrs, SF ranks 4th overall in draft return
Key words "overall draft return" vs rounds 1-4. And I never say something as ridiculous as they need to make every draft choice right. If you need hyperbole to make your case, it's already weak bud.
I'm willing to bet Kittle and Warner are covering a lot. The thing is we don't look at "overall draft returns over 5 years" when we talk about choosing players as if the draft happens every 5 years. Given the choices in rounds between players, you compare who was was chosen to who was available and hope your team gets most of em right, usually a higher return on the higher picks. However because no team gets it perfectly doesn't absolve a team of taking a really bad pick. It's all contextual.
Come on NY, by this crazed logic you're really going to sell Hurd, Williams, Thomas, and Pettis are okay picks? And now Kinlaw? I get it though the team can never ever ever do any wrong - well except keeping Garrapolo right? 😁
4th overall in draft return over the past 5 yrs according to football outsiders
yeah I'm never critical of this team lol
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:41 PM
- richterkbelmont
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Kinlaw will be great and was the right pick couldn't care less about the clueless fans constant crying and whining.
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:41 PM
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Nice post GM. Hear hear
Yeah hyperbole is strong with young skywalker
Like I said before, nobody is "jumping off a cliff" no need to use hyperbole yet again. Everyone is concerned because this seems to be an ongoing issue which is completely justified and should not be dismissed like he often says. Hopefully he can manage it through his career but it should be a concern. If you are denying this.....well that is straight out denial.
he said we don't see a good return on our picks and I'm showing him the landscape compared to the rest of the league…which clearly stats otherwise.
what's an ongoing thing? How many games did he miss in college? How many for his knees? Zero for his knees.
How many games did he miss last yr because of his knee prior to actually getting injured? Zero.
like I said take a breath. What's there to be in denial about? People are exaggerating like always in here…at least wait to see if it actually becomes an issue before getting concerned about it.
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:43 PM
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I agree with that, but had they not paid him after those 5 games, they would have paid him more after the SB.
He would have been tagged and gotten the torn ACL that yr…I don't think SF would have paid him more after that.
Sep 11, 2021 at 5:44 PM
- richterkbelmont
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Nice post GM. Hear hear
Yeah hyperbole is strong with young skywalker
Like I said before, nobody is "jumping off a cliff" no need to use hyperbole yet again. Everyone is concerned because this seems to be an ongoing issue which is completely justified and should not be dismissed like he often says. Hopefully he can manage it through his career but it should be a concern. If you are denying this.....well that is straight out denial.
he said we don't see a good return on our picks and I'm showing him the landscape compared to the rest of the league…which clearly stats otherwise.
what's an ongoing thing? How many games did he miss in college? How many for his knees? Zero for his knees.
How many games did he miss last yr because of his knee prior to actually getting injured? Zero.
like I said take a breath. What's there to be in denial about? People are exaggerating like always in here…at least wait to see if it actually becomes an issue before getting concerned about it.
You shouldn't waste time. Clueless fans will just look for any small excuse to cry which is their special. Kinlaw will be awesome and the DL is deep enough to play this game without him. But don't try to talk with the crybabies it's a waste of time.