Javon Kinlaw is a Jet!-Pick #14, 2020 NFL Draft.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I would have been totally fine with choosing Wirfs, in spite of wanting Lamb more. We needed WR, OL and CB help. We didnt get it.

The Kinlaw pick was a terrible pick from the jump. I understand building the trenches is important, but even after trading Buckner, I would have ranked the defensive line as the best or one of the best units on the team. The pick made zero sense from the jump.

I felt the exact same way bro. It wasn't so much the player (at that time). This was so reminiscent of the Solomon Thomas pick for me, at that time we had Buck and Armstead so the pick of Thomas made zero sense to me in the same regard. f**king stupid

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Originally posted by hubbyt:
I cant call him a bust yet but I forget he is out there sometimes.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

DJ Jones was a 6th round pick. Shouldn't we be able to expect at least the same production out of Kinlaw as him?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Could've drafted Tom Brady. Could've drafted Patrick Mahomes. Could've drafted countless HOFers instead of busts. Playing the hindsight game is dumb.

These examples aren't even close to similar, and you know that.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:
I haven't rewatched the game cuz I've been busy but for everyone losing their minds cuz Kinlaw didn't turn into Aaron Donald overnight do we know what the gameplan was?

Feels like we went out of our way to keep Murray in the pocket. Clogging up blocks isn't what you want out of a mid 1st round pick but just because he doesn't show up on the stat sheet doesn't mean he isn't helping the team.

I'm losing my mind because Kinlaw's knee is probably going to prevent him from turning into half of Aaron Donald, ever.

Oh and the fact that Ceedee Lamb was there for the picking, and we chose a WR later who "perfectly fits the system" but is trending towards the second coming of Dante Pettis.

You still have the best name in here!

Ouch. Or Wirfs. He could have played G for a year and moved out to RT and saved us $10M by letting MM go.

Could've drafted Tom Brady. Could've drafted Patrick Mahomes. Could've drafted countless HOFers instead of busts. Playing the hindsight game is dumb. Wait at least 3 years to call someone a bust.

Either way, Kinlaw is a DT. People who expected Aaron Donald 2.0 were delusional. The travesty was letting Buckner leave in favor of Armstead. Kinlaw is just the aftermath of that decision, so everyone uses him as the punching bag. Punch Armstead for being overpaid.

I didn't call him a bust. I apologize if I was accurate about Lamb, Wirfs and Kinlaw (so far).

No, he is a bust, You don't need to apologize about it.

I don't care whether Kinlaw is the aftermath of keeping Armstead instead of Buckner, but we did spend a 1st round pick on him and he is a bust.

And since people brought up Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was drafted as the 13th overall pick and Kinlaw 14th overall pick. So, tell me why shouldn't we have expectations on Kinlaw?!

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Why is it so hard to give a player some time to acclimate, grow and develop under pro tutelage?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Why is it so hard to give a player some time to acclimate, grow and develop under pro tutelage?

Because fans demand excellence from their couch.

Originally posted by A-R-S:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Why is it so hard to give a player some time to acclimate, grow and develop under pro tutelage?

Because fans demand excellence from their couch.

It's really not asking too much that you're top picks make positive impact. Ours do not.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Why is it so hard to give a player some time to acclimate, grow and develop under pro tutelage?

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by A-R-S:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Rascal:
You know what a broken record sounds like?

"Kinlaw, questionable, knee"

The 9ers have not just drafted a bad player, but one that suffers from a chronic knee condition. There is only one word for a player like Kinlaw, BUST.

He's certainly not a generational player like Leonard Fournette but bust not even half way through his 2nd season? Of course...

Typical webzone talk. Someone isn't instantly producing at pro bowl levels when drafted early = bust.

Kinlaw wasn't the guy I wanted us to draft but fact is our defense has been much better with him this year than without. And that's with him playing less than 100%.

Why is it so hard for you and others to understand that its not JUST his level of play thus far, but that combined with the fact that he has a knee issue that could hinder him from having a long career? Its not getting any better, and was an issue prior to drafting him. Its not just his play when he is out there.

Why is it so hard to give a player some time to acclimate, grow and develop under pro tutelage?

Because fans demand excellence from their couch.

It's really not asking too much that you're top picks make positive impact. Ours do not.

i finally have a NICKNAME for Kinlaw !!! wooohoooo !!!

I shall now call him.... BOXING HELENA !!!