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Javon Kinlaw is a Jet!-Pick #14, 2020 NFL Draft.
Oct 22, 2021 at 10:42 PM
- StubbyNBY
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This one hurts boys. Major blunder
Oct 22, 2021 at 10:57 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
This one hurts boys. Major blunder
Maybe his condition will clear up, but it's not looking very promising.
Oct 23, 2021 at 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Deebo:
kinlaw over/under years before out of the league.
2.5
Assuming he isn't inducted into the 49ers' Hall of I.R. Team, along with Hurd? Under.
Sadly, they knew of his condition and still drafted him.
His current knee condition isn't the same one from before being drafted.
Oct 23, 2021 at 1:05 AM
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Deebo:
kinlaw over/under years before out of the league.
2.5
Assuming he isn't inducted into the 49ers' Hall of I.R. Team, along with Hurd? Under.
Sadly, they knew of his condition and still drafted him.
His current knee condition isn't the same one from before being drafted.
So, I'm confused - is this an old injury he re-aggravated or a new one? I thought he had a condition where his knee swells up on him.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Oct 23, 2021 at 1:20 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 4:49 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Deebo:
kinlaw over/under years before out of the league.
2.5
Assuming he isn't inducted into the 49ers' Hall of I.R. Team, along with Hurd? Under.
Sadly, they knew of his condition and still drafted him.
His current knee condition isn't the same one from before being drafted.
So, I'm confused - is this an old injury he re-aggravated or a new one? I thought he had a condition where his knee swells up on him.
Both. He already had a flagged knee coming out for arthritis+. Then did more damage to it last which required some surgeries and it sounds like it just never took. I'm guessing he'll need another surgery but either way, the tendonitis will always be there and probably worse, now that he's had multiple surgeries.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 23, 2021 at 6:33 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 5:26 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Both. He already had a flagged knee coming out for tendonitis+. Then did more damage to it last which required some surgeries and it sounds like it just never took. I'm guessing he'll need another surgery but either way, the tendonitis will always be there and probably worse, now that he's had multiple surgeries.
Hi my name is NC. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV
they said some flagged Kinlaw's knees as "at risk of arthritis down the road" not tendinitis…they are not the same thing.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 23, 2021 at 5:43 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 5:55 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Both. He already had a flagged knee coming out for tendonitis+. Then did more damage to it last which required some surgeries and it sounds like it just never took. I'm guessing he'll need another surgery but either way, the tendonitis will always be there and probably worse, now that he's had multiple surgeries.
Hi my name is NC. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV
they said some flagged Kinlaw's knees as "at risk of arthritis down the road" not tendinitis…they are not the same thing.
That's worse actually.
Arthritis is joint inflammation and tendonitis is inflammation of a tendon.
Either way, a knee flag for a 330 pound 3T playing in the trenches in a 1 gap explosive system is a...red flag.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 23, 2021 at 5:57 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 6:17 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
That's worse actually.
Arthritis is joint inflammation and tendonitis is inflammation of a tendon.
Yes one occurs over a long period of time, the other can happen at any point. Tendinitis will not always be there (like you said).
Joint surgery is what usually happens with bad arthritis (again takes a long period of time), he most certainly didn't have that done in the off season.
So to assume his injury vs Dallas is in reference to that pre-draft report is flat out guessing.
look I hate that they keep drafting anyone with any flag for health, but it sounds like he legit got injured vs Dallas and had a setback.
Oct 23, 2021 at 6:35 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's worse actually.
Arthritis is joint inflammation and tendonitis is inflammation of a tendon.
Yes one occurs over a long period of time, the other can happen at any point. Tendinitis will not always be there (like you said).
Joint surgery is what usually happens with bad arthritis (again takes a long period of time), he most certainly didn't have that done in the off season.
So to assume his injury vs Dallas is in reference to that pre-draft report is flat out guessing.
look I hate that they keep drafting anyone with any flag for health, but it sounds like he legit got injured vs Dallas and had a setback.
I simply answered mayo's question. It's both.
So, I'm confused - is this an old injury he re-aggravated or a new one? I thought he had a condition where his knee swells up on him.
Oct 23, 2021 at 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:He was flagged for both. He had to cut his Senior Bowl week short because of tendinitis.
Hi my name is NC. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV
they said some flagged Kinlaw's knees as "at risk of arthritis down the road" not tendinitis…they are not the same thing.
Drafting a guy this big with knee problems was never a smart idea.
South Carolina DT Javon Kinlaw (knee tendinitis) done for week at Senior Bowlhttps://t.co/I4qkDyzkrF pic.twitter.com/dunz6louXL
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) January 23, 2020
Oct 23, 2021 at 8:55 AM
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Yeah, it's really disappointing because Kinlaw has showed great promise when healthy. Another wasted pick it seems. Lynch might be on the hot seat.
although, other teams rosters are also full of early picks not producing.
although, other teams rosters are also full of early picks not producing.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Oct 23, 2021 at 8:56 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NYniner85:He was flagged for both. He had to cut his Senior Bowl week short because of tendinitis.
Hi my name is NC. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV
they said some flagged Kinlaw's knees as "at risk of arthritis down the road" not tendinitis…they are not the same thing.
Drafting a guy this big with knee problems was never a smart idea.
South Carolina DT Javon Kinlaw (knee tendinitis) done for week at Senior Bowlhttps://t.co/I4qkDyzkrF pic.twitter.com/dunz6louXL
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) January 23, 2020
The report I saw from NBC sports was the possibility of arthritis that's what I saw he was actually flagged for. Tendinitis is something that's absolutely treatable and happens more often then not when your not in shape or go full blast without doing the proper stretches. Sounds like he wasn't in shape for the SB and strained something. Kid missed one game in college.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/knee-tendinitis-49ers-dee-ford-javon-kinlaw-explained-doctor
While no team failed Kinlaw's physical at the combine, NFL Media's Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelisserro reported that multiple teams flagged Kinlaw's knees as "at risk of arthritis."
He got tendinitis while at the SB, he wasn't flagged for that.
it all sucks I get it
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 23, 2021 at 9:11 AM ]
Oct 23, 2021 at 9:13 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I simply answered mayo's question. It's both.
So, I'm confused - is this an old injury he re-aggravated or a new one? I thought he had a condition where his knee swells up on him.
Well let's at least get it right
Oct 23, 2021 at 9:29 AM
- Big_Daddy
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's worse actually.
Arthritis is joint inflammation and tendonitis is inflammation of a tendon.
Yes one occurs over a long period of time, the other can happen at any point. Tendinitis will not always be there (like you said).
Joint surgery is what usually happens with bad arthritis (again takes a long period of time), he most certainly didn't have that done in the off season.
So to assume his injury vs Dallas is in reference to that pre-draft report is flat out guessing.
look I hate that they keep drafting anyone with any flag for health, but it sounds like he legit got injured vs Dallas and had a setback.
I simply answered mayo's question. It's both.
So, I'm confused - is this an old injury he re-aggravated or a new one? I thought he had a condition where his knee swells up on him.
Man NC, it must suck to have an organizational apologist follow you around anytime you want to drop some truth in da Zone.
I do remember when we used to be optimists.
then we hired tomsula. And Kelly. And still kept paraag. And then finally a bonafide GM in Lynch.
kyle is ok, but there's no one to check him and his power. There's no adult in the room. Any other first year head coach who openly said he was skipping QB workouts ahead of their first draft would be fired for it.
sure let's keep Armstead over Buckner. let's keep picking players with injury history.
where are the adults? But we aren't allowed to get upset otherwise NY and gang will tell us why we are stoooopid and why Kyle is the greatest ever.
kyle is way overrated. Sure, any coach can get to the super bowl when they draft a Bosa, play generational defense and have no injuries. Great coaches excel every year.
kinlaw. Bust. Just to get back on topic.
Oct 23, 2021 at 9:30 AM
- Heroism
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Tendinitis is something that's absolutely treatable and happens more often then not when your not in shape or go full blast without doing the proper stretches.
Tendinitis arises from more causes than just that. I've had elbow tendinitis for over a decade from football. Mine stemmed from overuse doing pulling movements(I was obsessed with getting a massive back in high school/college).
Also, it doesn't go away unless you completely stop putting strain on the tendons, and mine always came back even after "treatment." I know Dee Ford's has as well. I doubt Kinlaw's ever goes away and fully expect it to worsen.
Terrible pick. It would be one thing if Kinlaw was good but had bad knees. He's bad(relative to his pick) and has bad knees.
[ Edited by Heroism on Oct 23, 2021 at 9:34 AM ]