Javon Kinlaw is a Jet!-Pick #14, 2020 NFL Draft. | Page 735

Jan 30, 2024 at 7:11 PM

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If he just needed more time, maybe he is the next Jimmie Ward. Give him a 2-3 year team friendly deal with incentives. But we still must draft 2 more interior guys. JH and AA are getting older and it really seems like they don't have the same amount of gas in the tank they used to.

Jimmie Ward was good from the start, he was just always injured. Kinlaw has been bad from the start and is always injured. Like Hero said, the dude has a splash play here and there, but can't string together any consistency. That said, hopefully he balls out at the Super Bowl and earns himself a decent contract somewhere.

Yeahhhhh... Ward got destroyed early on. I remember Brandon Marshall annihilating him for 3 touchdowns in one game.

Now, he improved when he had stints of health, but this is the first year Kinlaw has been healthy.

Jan 30, 2024 at 7:15 PM

#11012

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If he just needed more time, maybe he is the next Jimmie Ward. Give him a 2-3 year team friendly deal with incentives. But we still must draft 2 more interior guys. JH and AA are getting older and it really seems like they don't have the same amount of gas in the tank they used to.

Jimmie Ward was good from the start, he was just always injured. Kinlaw has been bad from the start and is always injured. Like Hero said, the dude has a splash play here and there, but can't string together any consistency. That said, hopefully he balls out at the Super Bowl and earns himself a decent contract somewhere.

Yeahhhhh... Ward got destroyed early on. I remember Brandon Marshall annihilating him for 3 touchdowns in one game.

Now, he improved when he had stints of health, but this is the first year Kinlaw has been healthy.

I remember that game. It was the bears and Brandon Marshall took ward to back of the shed

Jan 31, 2024 at 1:08 AM

#11013

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If he just needed more time, maybe he is the next Jimmie Ward. Give him a 2-3 year team friendly deal with incentives. But we still must draft 2 more interior guys. JH and AA are getting older and it really seems like they don't have the same amount of gas in the tank they used to.

Jimmie Ward was good from the start, he was just always injured. Kinlaw has been bad from the start and is always injured. Like Hero said, the dude has a splash play here and there, but can't string together any consistency. That said, hopefully he balls out at the Super Bowl and earns himself a decent contract somewhere.

Yeahhhhh... Ward got destroyed early on. I remember Brandon Marshall annihilating him for 3 touchdowns in one game.

Now, he improved when he had stints of health, but this is the first year Kinlaw has been healthy.

That was a bad game. Just one. I remember people ripping Fangio for leaving Ward on Marshall one on one. But again, it was a single game.

Jan 31, 2024 at 6:07 AM

#11014

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Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Javon Kinlaw made the stop on 3rd down to force the first 4th down attempt. Kinlaw leads all DTs in tackles during the playoffs. He has the second-highest win percentage as a pass rusher, too, for DTs.
— KP (@KP_Show) January 30, 2024

I keep reading he has had a very good playoffs and elevated his play. I wish we could get this from others like Young etc.

I highly doubt we retain him, but the regime does seem to like him, his work ethic etc, he simply wasn't healthy. I have no idea what his market will be and you know we will be focused on others first like Aiyuk etc to gauge the cap, but If we did make an offer and it wasn't terribly less than any other offer he has he may stay. I still doubt that happens.

Jan 31, 2024 at 8:47 AM

#11015

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If he just needed more time, maybe he is the next Jimmie Ward. Give him a 2-3 year team friendly deal with incentives. But we still must draft 2 more interior guys. JH and AA are getting older and it really seems like they don't have the same amount of gas in the tank they used to.

Jimmie Ward was good from the start, he was just always injured. Kinlaw has been bad from the start and is always injured. Like Hero said, the dude has a splash play here and there, but can't string together any consistency. That said, hopefully he balls out at the Super Bowl and earns himself a decent contract somewhere.

Yeahhhhh... Ward got destroyed early on. I remember Brandon Marshall annihilating him for 3 touchdowns in one game.

Now, he improved when he had stints of health, but this is the first year Kinlaw has been healthy.

That was a bad game. Just one. I remember people ripping Fangio for leaving Ward on Marshall one on one. But again, it was a single game.

Yeah it was the second game of his rookie season and I believe his first start, against a receiver coming off a 1500 yard season...

Jan 31, 2024 at 9:28 AM

#11016

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I don't trust PFF at all, but here you go. For Kinlaw, certainly small sample size.

Run Stop Leaders, DL, Playoffs, PFF:

1. Javon Kinlaw, 4
t1. Justin Madubuike, 4
t1. Mike Pennel, 4
4. Chase Young, 3 (!!)

For all the flak that Kinlaw and Young have caught, they're both Top-5 in run stops in the postseason.
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) January 31, 2024

[ Edited by libertyforever on Jan 31, 2024 at 10:02 AM ]

Jan 31, 2024 at 10:28 AM

#11017

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Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
He's played a lot better the last 2 games.

The jury is still out and this is his moment to win or lose.

Hope he wins.
He playing harder because his contract is up. Wonderi what happens if he gets a multi year deal with a decent guarantee?

I would rather spend that money on another big based body like Ridgeway from last year, or DJ who we had and went to Denver. We need a large immovable force down the middle.

I agree - he's NOT worth a big contract and I'd rather spend the $$ elsewhere.

Jan 31, 2024 at 12:08 PM

#11018

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Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
He's played a lot better the last 2 games.

The jury is still out and this is his moment to win or lose.

Hope he wins.
He playing harder because his contract is up. Wonderi what happens if he gets a multi year deal with a decent guarantee?

I would rather spend that money on another big based body like Ridgeway from last year, or DJ who we had and went to Denver. We need a large immovable force down the middle.

Agree, he knows he's a free agent after this game, and he's basically auditioning for a job next year right now on the biggest stage in the world.

Jan 31, 2024 at 2:25 PM

#11019

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Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.

Jan 31, 2024 at 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.

I think we need Kinlaw to eat blockers in the middle in order to win. I have been very hard on this guy this season, but i see good signs lately. JAVON IF YOU ARE READING THIS, PLAY YOUR BEST GAME EVER AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.

Jan 31, 2024 at 2:52 PM

#11021

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He can really make it hard for the opposition guards.

Jan 31, 2024 at 2:52 PM

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Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.
I think we need Kinlaw to eat blockers in the middle in order to win. I have been very hard on this guy this season, but i see good signs lately. JAVON IF YOU ARE READING THIS, PLAY YOUR BEST GAME EVER AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.

Wouldnt be surprised if he goes to Seattle with them hiring the Baltimore DC as their head coach.

Jan 31, 2024 at 3:13 PM

#11023

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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.
I think we need Kinlaw to eat blockers in the middle in order to win. I have been very hard on this guy this season, but i see good signs lately. JAVON IF YOU ARE READING THIS, PLAY YOUR BEST GAME EVER AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.

Wouldnt be surprised if he goes to Seattle with them hiring the Baltimore DC as their head coach.

I've always wondered, what if Kinlaw goes to Seattle or Las Vegas and becomes Chris Jones by the time he's 28

Jan 31, 2024 at 7:07 PM

#11024

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Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.
I think we need Kinlaw to eat blockers in the middle in order to win. I have been very hard on this guy this season, but i see good signs lately. JAVON IF YOU ARE READING THIS, PLAY YOUR BEST GAME EVER AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.

Wouldnt be surprised if he goes to Seattle with them hiring the Baltimore DC as their head coach.

I've always wondered, what if Kinlaw goes to Seattle or Las Vegas and becomes Chris Jones by the time he's 28

Some guys take a little longer to develop, but time is not on your side in the NFL

Jan 31, 2024 at 7:21 PM

#11025

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by BP13:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by BP13:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kinlaw can help us in the Superbowl v the run

He is only now just for filling his potential.
I think we need Kinlaw to eat blockers in the middle in order to win. I have been very hard on this guy this season, but i see good signs lately. JAVON IF YOU ARE READING THIS, PLAY YOUR BEST GAME EVER AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.

Wouldnt be surprised if he goes to Seattle with them hiring the Baltimore DC as their head coach.

I've always wondered, what if Kinlaw goes to Seattle or Las Vegas and becomes Chris Jones by the time he's 28
Some guys take a little longer to develop, but time is not on your side in the NFL

We've stuck by Kinlaw and given him chances. I think if we give him a fair offer, he should stay and keep working under Kocurek. If it doesn't work out, OK, but I'd give him at least a two year deal to see if he can become more than a reserve.