Charlie Woerner l TE, ATL

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

Lol so much wrong in this statement.

NOT as much you on Armstead..

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT as much you on Armstead..

Why do you keep making stuff up and deflect? All I've ever said was AA was better than you think…I was all about Buck and you weren't and said he was soft.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
NOT as much you on Armstead..

Why do you keep making stuff up and deflect? All I've ever said was AA was better than you think…I was all about Buck and you weren't and said he was soft.

HOW was my statement wrong re Woerner?

how is my opinion an any players different than yours ??

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

Lol so much wrong in this statement.

So much wrong, but I'm not surprised

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Big arrow up for Woerner....kid has been crushing it as a blocker this yr.

Currently he's the 8th overall ranked TE on PFF and the 6th overall RBLK.

screw all those ranking... this kid and our other TE (82) can be as good as Witten if given a chance.. they are just not being used correctly..

Why is it "this guy isn't as good as that guy" or "he's not being used properly" with you, you clearly hate Kyle, yet his offense is clicking, I don't get it.

As for Woerner, he's clearly the #2 TE now, and deservingly so, he had a clutch 3rd down catch for a 1st last Sunday.

I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

#17 Travis Benjamin has had a decent year since 2017. He had one really good year and two decent seasons. He is lucky to be on a team. He was available to sign off the PS and 31 teams passed.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

Lol so much wrong in this statement.

So much wrong, but I'm not surprised

Incredibly wrong. And Armstead is a stalwart on the defense.

Originally posted by leakyfausett:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Big arrow up for Woerner....kid has been crushing it as a blocker this yr.

Currently he's the 8th overall ranked TE on PFF and the 6th overall RBLK.

screw all those ranking... this kid and our other TE (82) can be as good as Witten if given a chance.. they are just not being used correctly..

Why is it "this guy isn't as good as that guy" or "he's not being used properly" with you, you clearly hate Kyle, yet his offense is clicking, I don't get it.

As for Woerner, he's clearly the #2 TE now, and deservingly so, he had a clutch 3rd down catch for a 1st last Sunday.

I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

#17 Travis Benjamin has had a decent year since 2017. He had one really good year and two decent seasons. He is lucky to be on a team. He was available to sign off the PS and 31 teams passed.

according to NY and AB, I was for thinking that #17 sucks and had no right to be starting..

dang, these guys just continue to bow down to every move KS makes..

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Big arrow up for Woerner....kid has been crushing it as a blocker this yr.

Currently he's the 8th overall ranked TE on PFF and the 6th overall RBLK.

screw all those ranking... this kid and our other TE (82) can be as good as Witten if given a chance.. they are just not being used correctly..

Why is it "this guy isn't as good as that guy" or "he's not being used properly" with you, you clearly hate Kyle, yet his offense is clicking, I don't get it.

As for Woerner, he's clearly the #2 TE now, and deservingly so, he had a clutch 3rd down catch for a 1st last Sunday.

Agree. You don't inherit a crappy team with zero talent in 2017 blow two first round picks on busts in that draft, and then wind up in the super bowl in year 3 of your tenure by *accident.*

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. You don't inherit a crappy team with zero talent in 2017 blow two first round picks on busts in that draft, and then wind up in the super bowl in year 3 of your tenure by *accident.*

You also don't lose to Bowling Green by accident.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. You don't inherit a crappy team with zero talent in 2017 blow two first round picks on busts in that draft, and then wind up in the super bowl in year 3 of your tenure by *accident.*

You also don't lose to Bowling Green by accident.

HAH.... why don't you ask Nick Saban how Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe or how Michigan lost to Appalachian State..

.. u wanna talk coaching Super Bowl.. where's Doug Pederson at??

Originally posted by 9moon:
HAH.... why don't you ask Nick Saban how Alabama lost to Louisiana Monroe or how Michigan lost to Appalachian State..

.. u wanna talk coaching Super Bowl.. where's Doug Pederson at??

If Pederson was coaching Minnesota they'd win the Big 10.

Different levels of quality

https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-activate-tight-end-charlie-woerner-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list

Under the radar move. He had core muscle surgery so it may take some time to get his strength back. I prefer him over Dwelley as TE2 because supposedly Woerner is a better run blocker, and I'd rather have TE2 be a good blocker over being a good receiving TE. Woerner was TE2 last season based off snapcount. Kittle hasn't played a full season since 2018 so TE2 most likely will get some spot starts during the season.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Big arrow up for Woerner....kid has been crushing it as a blocker this yr.

Currently he's the 8th overall ranked TE on PFF and the 6th overall RBLK.

screw all those ranking... this kid and our other TE (82) can be as good as Witten if given a chance.. they are just not being used correctly..

Why is it "this guy isn't as good as that guy" or "he's not being used properly" with you, you clearly hate Kyle, yet his offense is clicking, I don't get it.

As for Woerner, he's clearly the #2 TE now, and deservingly so, he had a clutch 3rd down catch for a 1st last Sunday.

I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

Not to beat a dead horse but this statement makes no sense. Every year teams poach half his coaching staff and as long as the starting QB remains upright he goes to the playoffs and makes some noise. If you are talking about player usage and plays... thats his function as an OC not as a HC.

But even then the league believes he is one of the best play designers and callers which is why they take any and every offensive coach from him they can just to try and get to that same level.

Fans hated Saleh... turned in top 10 defenses with no previous DC experience. Some hated Ryans turned in a top ten D with no previous DC experience. All while filling in enough gaps on the offensive side to turn in a top 10 offense. Thats what a HC does brings in a staff he believes in and keeps cohesion. He's also kept this team together during a period where the starter knew he was about to get his job taken over with no real drama to speak off and made one interception away from the SB. There was no back room b*tching, no public outcries even when JG sh*t the bed in certain games, the team worked as one and didnt get divided... allot of that has to do with the HC.

Originally posted by thl408:
https://www.49ers.com/news/49ers-activate-tight-end-charlie-woerner-from-physically-unable-to-perform-list

Under the radar move. He had core muscle surgery so it may take some time to get his strength back. I prefer him over Dwelley as TE2 because supposedly Woerner is a better run blocker, and I'd rather have TE2 be a good blocker over being a good receiving TE. Woerner was TE2 last season based off snapcount. Kittle hasn't played a full season since 2018 so TE2 most likely will get some spot starts during the season.

I think this is going to be one of the more interesting camp battles. Dwelley or Woerner. I like both. But again if all things are equal in talent, if I had a choice, I'd always go younger.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Big arrow up for Woerner....kid has been crushing it as a blocker this yr.

Currently he's the 8th overall ranked TE on PFF and the 6th overall RBLK.

screw all those ranking... this kid and our other TE (82) can be as good as Witten if given a chance.. they are just not being used correctly..

Why is it "this guy isn't as good as that guy" or "he's not being used properly" with you, you clearly hate Kyle, yet his offense is clicking, I don't get it.

As for Woerner, he's clearly the #2 TE now, and deservingly so, he had a clutch 3rd down catch for a 1st last Sunday.

I don't hate Kyle.. I just don't think he's a good HC.. I think he's overrated and I think he's got much to learn..

I also think that he doesn't know how to handle a team... look at the time he wasted on players... look at the signing of the free agents..

look at how we handling the BEST FB IN FOOTBALL ... we give all that money, he's very talented... but correct me if I'm wrong.. his last catch was that diving DOWN & OUT by the sideline.. no?

KS has yet to learn how to use his weapons week in and week out.. one week he'll use this guy, next week he'll use that guy...

Last week alone, #17 was in the starting line up... for a series or two, then out for the rest of the game..

Not to beat a dead horse but this statement makes no sense. Every year teams poach half his coaching staff and as long as the starting QB remains upright he goes to the playoffs and makes some noise. If you are talking about player usage and plays... thats his function as an OC not as a HC.

But even then the league believes he is one of the best play designers and callers which is why they take any and every offensive coach from him they can just to try and get to that same level.

Fans hated Saleh... turned in top 10 defenses with no previous DC experience. Some hated Ryans turned in a top ten D with no previous DC experience. All while filling in enough gaps on the offensive side to turn in a top 10 offense. Thats what a HC does brings in a staff he believes in and keeps cohesion. He's also kept this team together during a period where the starter knew he was about to get his job taken over with no real drama to speak off and made one interception away from the SB. There was no back room b*tching, no public outcries even when JG sh*t the bed in certain games, the team worked as one and didnt get divided... allot of that has to do with the HC.

AGree 💯%, and I'll just add - we're going to get more 3rd round compensatory picks once Demeco gets a Head Coaching job in 2023.