Do you want to see writers cover political topics when reading about the 49ers?

Originally posted by kelson49er:

...there's not really another side of the argument. Legit arguments are over things like economic philosophies, budget priorities, immigration systems, etc. But, reasonable people can't watch the Floyd video and think everything was a-okay there. It's kind of just a factual recognition thing. Reality doesn't have a liberal or conservative bias.

Someone gets it. There is no other side. It's not a debate or argument.

Originally posted by fryet:

Let's try another angle. The argument seems to be that since something is true, it is ok to include in the sports section. But that really isn't the right bar. We could talk about the number of orphan children in India, or infant deaths. Maybe number of Christians tortured throughout the world. Being true or not isn't the bar. The real issue is whether you want sports to be about political advocacy. If you want to be an advocate for a cause, there are plenty of other places where such things can be discussed.

It would be nice to have sports without politics or people's opinions. Unfortunately sports are played by human beings, not robots.

Originally posted by 91til:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by 91til:
I get that people go to sports for a refuge from "reality," ...but at the same time, pretending that sports does not take place in reality, or that players, organizations, or reporters covering the sport should ignore the incredible political climate that we are living in right now is willfully ignorant.

What makes you think "politics" has anything to do with reality? It's a phony stage where conflicts are intentionally fostered between groups to distract people from the real war being waged -- on the pay check in your pocket.

How's that door dash side gig coming along to pay the interest on your student loans?

damn you sound dumb as hell lol

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Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by fryet:
Start another thread to debate that. This thread is for whether politics should be in the sports section of a newspaper.

No answer?

I sent you a PM to keep this thread clean.

Originally posted by fryet:

I sent you a PM to keep this thread clean.

Thank you! Can't wait for football! Go Niners!

Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by fryet:
Let's try another angle. The argument seems to be that since something is true, it is ok to include in the sports section. But that really isn't the right bar. We could talk about the number of orphan children in India, or infant deaths. Maybe number of Christians tortured throughout the world. Being true or not isn't the bar. The real issue is whether you want sports to be about political advocacy. If you want to be an advocate for a cause, there are plenty of other places where such things can be discussed.

It would be nice to have sports without politics or people's opinions. Unfortunately sports are played by human beings, not robots.

Someday we will get there.

I agree that it would be nice if writers didn't have to address these issues but the fact is they are. Turn on any sports show and sooner or later there are comments about what's going on in the country whether it's about police brutality, basic human rights or the Covid virus. Politics gets into the fabric of our lives but killing someone isn't politics. Athletes are commenting on this every day so naturally the writers are going to cover it. It would be great if events like these quit happening so there would no longer be a need to talk about them.

I think coaches and owners are releasing states on this to try and stay on good terms with their players. (and future free agents for that matter). So sports writers know they can get an easy story/clicks by publishing it.

Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by kelson49er:
...there's not really another side of the argument. Legit arguments are over things like economic philosophies, budget priorities, immigration systems, etc. But, reasonable people can't watch the Floyd video and think everything was a-okay there. It's kind of just a factual recognition thing. Reality doesn't have a liberal or conservative bias.

Someone gets it. There is no other side. It's not a debate or argument.

There is no other side when evaluating the exact action at hand. I think most people can agree with that.

However, the circumstances that leads up to that action occurring, more often than not is a two sided issue.

And in this particular situation at hand, the entire police vs. the world is another element added to it that can't be ignored.

Originally posted by 91til:
damn you sound dumb as hell lol

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by kelson49er:

...there's not really another side of the argument. Legit arguments are over things like economic philosophies, budget priorities, immigration systems, etc. But, reasonable people can't watch the Floyd video and think everything was a-okay there. It's kind of just a factual recognition thing. Reality doesn't have a liberal or conservative bias.

Someone gets it. There is no other side. It's not a debate or argument.

There is no other side when evaluating the exact action at hand. I think most people can agree with that.

However, the circumstances that leads up to that action occurring, more often than not is a two sided issue.

And in this particular situation at hand, the entire police vs. the world is another element added to it that can't be ignored.

Yes I think most people agree that Floyd was killed because the cop did not perform his correct duties as a police officer. And he should be punished by our justice system for his actions/inactions.

Now what becomes tricky is the reason behind the killing. It could be a racist white cop that was just looking to kill a black man, or he could of just been a bully cop who didn't care what he was doing to a known criminal, or something else entirely.

My belief that this violence boils down to fear. The fear many of our citizens have of the police and the fear many of our police have of its citizens. That is what we need to fix and I don't think it will be easy.

I think the first step is to bring the communities and the police together instead of driving them apart as what we are seeing. Maybe schedule a lot of meet and greet times. Have BBQs and beer on the cities dime to the people of the community where they can talk with the police officers and get to know each other.

I think getting rid of the Us vs Them mentality is what we need to get rid of and I don't think throwing money at the problem will make it go away.

I just want sports, thats why I'm here.