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Spreading bad years on the Salary cap
Jul 23, 2020 at 6:38 PM
- fryet
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NFL doesn't want to spread it over more than a couple of years, players want it spread out over 10. My take is that players voting today in most cases won't be there in 10, so it is unfair to take cash away from future players to put more money into the pockets of players today. I think any plan that spreads the bad years should be limited to 4 years or less.
Jul 24, 2020 at 11:37 AM
- random49er
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Well as of now,...the moment you're to play one down,...you earn your full yearly guarantees and salaries from game to game.
This is what is in the contract language as of today, hard times or not. The amount of revenue made this year is scheduled to affect the salary cap next year, actually.
Keep in mind,....this is what all those billions of dollars we "need" for owners to possess are really for,...right?
Times like these. Otherwise,...let's redo the entire upper-echelon of NFL Team ownership because it reeks of corruption and disenfranchisement.
The NFLPA agreeing to anything at all -- spread out or 4 years -- is bargaining due to a lack of leverage when so many of the ones you represent know that their careers are extremely short and are desperate to get back on the field.
Stuff like this is not easy for the NFLPA and never will be due to the games owners know they can play with players. But if we are really talking fairness, don't agree to anything beyond what you already signed in mid-March (when this pandemic was already well known, btw, and may people were already out of work) and let the billionaires figure out.
This is what is in the contract language as of today, hard times or not. The amount of revenue made this year is scheduled to affect the salary cap next year, actually.
Keep in mind,....this is what all those billions of dollars we "need" for owners to possess are really for,...right?
Times like these. Otherwise,...let's redo the entire upper-echelon of NFL Team ownership because it reeks of corruption and disenfranchisement.
The NFLPA agreeing to anything at all -- spread out or 4 years -- is bargaining due to a lack of leverage when so many of the ones you represent know that their careers are extremely short and are desperate to get back on the field.
Stuff like this is not easy for the NFLPA and never will be due to the games owners know they can play with players. But if we are really talking fairness, don't agree to anything beyond what you already signed in mid-March (when this pandemic was already well known, btw, and may people were already out of work) and let the billionaires figure out.
[ Edited by random49er on Jul 24, 2020 at 4:12 PM ]
Jul 24, 2020 at 1:22 PM
- fryet
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If there is no deal, then the expectation is that salary cap will take a hit of 70 million for each team next year. There is a webzone linked article explaining the number of players that the 49ers would need to cut to get under the cap, and they aren't in that bad of a situation. Spreading it out over multiple years is a good thing for the players currently employed. My objection was spreading it out over 10 years, as that would just be a wealth transfer from future players to current players.
Jul 24, 2020 at 3:16 PM
- Hopper
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The Cap is going down to 175 mil in 2021.
Jul 24, 2020 at 4:15 PM
- random49er
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Why should the current players bear more of the brunt of it? Theyre the ones taking much more of a risk than teams 8-10 yrs from now,... right?
Dont go hard after them... if anything the ones now deserve more.
And my suggestion looks like it's what's going to happen. Leave it up to them.
Dont go hard after them... if anything the ones now deserve more.
And my suggestion looks like it's what's going to happen. Leave it up to them.
Jul 24, 2020 at 6:50 PM
- JTB1974
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Eagles got to be hating this. They were in rough shape for 2021 as it was when it came to the cap. Right now their cap for 2021 sits at $268 Million. Saints sit around $245 Million. Chiefs at close to $203 Million.
Jul 24, 2020 at 7:44 PM
- fryet
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Originally posted by random49er:
Why should the current players bear more of the brunt of it? Theyre the ones taking much more of a risk than teams 8-10 yrs from now,... right?
Dont go hard after them... if anything the ones now deserve more.
And my suggestion looks like it's what's going to happen. Leave it up to them.
No one else is getting pay raises during this covid-19, in fact many are losing their jobs, and at best no pay increases. Players 10 years from now are going to be living in a different world with its own problems. There is no reason they should be making less so that current players can make more.