Do you support NFL change in policy to support protesting during the national anthem

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
well when it's worded that way of course most people will say no. even i would say no. it's a bs number. if that was anyhow true, ratings would be like 500k viewers, not 18 mil, like Thursday Night just did.

I just read last night was down 13% from last year's Thursday Night opener.

There were several other options to watch last night. The game was'nt close and there were NBA and NHL playoff games on at the same time. You also have MLB all around the country and the US Open tennis was on. Each of these factors likely syphoned off some of the audience. If the game had been close and gone down to the wire the ratings would have been higher. You also had a lot of people displaced from their home because of the recent hurricanes in the south and the fires out west.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Almost 2 million people (6% from Previous year) cut the cord on satellite/cable in 2020 1st quarter alone .

That was before the COVID caused the HUGE economic downturn/ unemployment.

Netflix on the other hand added 15 million subscribers in the 1st quarter .

Ya i wonder how many people had to get rid of cable since covid.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Ya i wonder how many people had to get rid of cable since covid.

With several million out of work and benefits running out, I imagine that was one of the first things they got rid of. The people that were affected by the hurricanes and fires either have no home or have more on their mind than football. The NFL still drew more viewers than anything else that week so I don't think they're worried.

I thought I would drop this here because it deals with the subject matter in this here thread. It was written in 1940 by a young Allen Drury, a Stanford graduate who would later win the Pulitzer Prize for his signature novel: Advise and Consent. This, however, was written much earlier. It's part of an unpublished manuscript called Citizenship, which Drury wrote in 1940, shortly after he graduated in 1939.

"I cannot tell you how to feel when the flag goes by, or what prayers to offer for the Republic, or how you should cast your vote to the most consistent with its preservation. I can no more establish a criterion for you than you for me. All we can do for each other is to try to exchange, quietly as possible, such information on the state of our own minds and hearts as may contribute toward mutual understanding and good will, and so in some manner lend the strength of our common sympathy to the common effort. That is undertaking enough, God knows, and of a nature to daunt the most hardy."

Drury, who passed in 1998, was considered a strong conservative. His books fell out of favor as the country became more liberal in later years and actually went out of print at one point. I found this part of Citizenship to be rather surprising, especially the first line, which is underlined.

I am currently narrating a few of his books, which are now back in print, and Citizenship has been included in one of them.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Ya i wonder how many people had to get rid of cable since covid.

With several million out of work and benefits running out, I imagine that was one of the first things they got rid of. The people that were affected by the hurricanes and fires either have no home or have more on their mind than football. The NFL still drew more viewers than anything else that week so I don't think they're worried.

Ya. I was close to getting rid of my cable this year. Luckily i wasn't working for only about a month. Im sure the numbers are in the millions though.

Originally posted by Jikkle49:
Neutral myself.

Even though I completely disagree with them kneeling for the anthem I do support their right to do it because that ability to do so and not get dragged into a prison to be killed or "re-educated" in some camp is one of the great parts of this country.

^^ this guy thinks

Not sure if this means anything but it's another random data point

Originally posted by stimpy:
Not sure if this means anything but it's another random data point

Football is back!! @fanatics NFL sales jump more than 35% for opening weekend vs last year, setting a record for best start ever to the NFL season.

— Michael Rubin (@MichaelGRubin) September 14, 2020

They had a great sale recently?

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by stimpy:
Not sure if this means anything but it's another random data point

Football is back!! @fanatics NFL sales jump more than 35% for opening weekend vs last year, setting a record for best start ever to the NFL season.

— Michael Rubin (@MichaelGRubin) September 14, 2020

They had a great sale recently?

i doubt you fit their marketing audience

I know it's more complicated nowadays in the digital tv world but Cutting the chord doesn't apply to Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS. They're not cable.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
I know it's more complicated nowadays in the digital tv world but Cutting the chord doesn't apply to Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS. They're not cable.

Streaming games illegally is becoming easier and easier.
Bars in areas still arent open
on the other hand with fans not allowed in stadiums numbers should in theory go up

Originally posted by tjd808185:

I know it's more complicated nowadays in the digital tv world but Cutting the chord doesn't apply to Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS. They're not cable.

Most millennials and now gen z aren't going out and buying digital antennas so they can watch football, they just stream it illegally.

The only cord cutters I know that are buying antennas are old people, 40 and up that still feel the need to watch the local news or some sitcom.

I haven't had cable/satellite/digital TV since I moved out of the house 10 years ago.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

I know it's more complicated nowadays in the digital tv world but Cutting the chord doesn't apply to Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS. They're not cable.

Streaming games illegally is becoming easier and easier.
Bars in areas still arent open
on the other hand with fans not allowed in stadiums numbers should in theory go up

It would only increase viewers by about 900,000 people across the nation for all the games... it's not that much to be honest.

Originally posted by fryet:
When Colin Kaepernick sat/kneeled during the national anthem the NFL pushed back to various degrees. Now the NFL is apologizing and taking steps to support BLM type issues during the anthem/game. As a fan, do these changes have an impact on how you view the NFL and your likelihood to watch games?

At what point will people stop being hypocrites pretending to care while they sit in an chair and drink beer during the anthem? That is mein primary question.

No - due to change, I am less likely to watch NFL games: 36%

People lying their ass off once again on the Internet.